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Reply 60 of 118, by GL1zdA

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2000-12 Pentium III 700 (Socket 370)
2003-?? Pentium III 1.4 GHz
2005-04 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Winchester)
200x-xx AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Newcastle) - because Winchester had problems with more than 2 RAM modules
2010-xx AMD E-350 - the graphics on the A64 died and I needed something for work.
2012-07 Intel Core i7-3820

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Reply 61 of 118, by Anonymous Coward

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1989-Motorola 68000
1992-486DX/33
1997-K6 200
1999 - PII-400
2000 - PIII-550
2000 - PIII-700
2001 - Tualeron 1200
2006 - CoreDuo 1.83
2011 - Celeron G530 2.4

My interest in CPUs peaked with the PIII. I haven't really given a shit since then. I really liked my Tualatin based Celeron, but at the time it was considered pretty low end (even though it really wasn't).

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Reply 62 of 118, by F2bnp

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1996 - Pentium 133 (family computer, would later get passed on to me)
2000 - Pentium III 733 (brother's PC, but I had access to it whenever I wanted to play something new 😀 )
2001 - Celeron 900
2004 - Celeron 2.4GHz ( 😵, was later upgraded to a Northwood HT 2.8GHz in early 2007)
2008 - Core2Duo E6550 2.33GHz (was later upgraded to Q9450 in mid 2012)
2012 - Phenom II x6 1055T (still somewhat new at the time, Q9450 was pretty competitive but I got this at a price I just couldn't resist, plus I got into AM3+ with DDR3 and SATA 3 😉)
2015 - FX 8320 (AMD still offered this as one of their higher end offerings so I guess it counts 😜)

Ryzen looks great, so I might switch over to it at some point, although there aren't that many games I wish to play that don't run fine on the 8320 anyway. Emulators would certainly love the single threaded performance though.

I think that's about it, rest of the CPUs and CPU upgrades I've done are usually second hand and out of production. And I mess with retro hardware so much, so there's countless CPUs right there 😜. I swap GPUs far more often though, usually every 2-3 years.

Reply 63 of 118, by kanecvr

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^Mega points for sticking with AMD all those years. I jumped ship when my 6400+ was stuttering like crazy in S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Crysis with a brand new and expensive 8800GTX, and AMD's quad core parts kept getting delayed.

i rather die than use Intel in my main rig. There is nothing wrong with their processors (except Netburst), i just cant stand the way they handle things (demands, monopoly, prices, etc)

dont forget that we have i3 with 4 cores, i5 with 6 cores, i7 with 6 cores/12threads, i9, etc because Ryzen. If it wasnt for Ryzen, Intel could still selling i7s with 4cores/8threads like high end at crazy prices...

I know. Who could forget the scandal in 2005-2006 with intel coursing OEMs to use intel chips exclusively. Nvidia is doing a similar thing nowadays - messing up drivers for previous gen cards to cripple performance, locking then unlocking overclocking on laptop GPUs, that Gameworks bullshit, locking clocks on the upcoming GTX 1070ti so it won't eat in GTX 1080 sales, releasing mid-end cards at enthusiast price points, then releasing the enthusiast cards at gargantuan prices, screwing board partners with their bullshit founders edition cards, and being a dick in general - but hey - when I got my 1070, AMD had no alternative to offer. Even now the Vega 56 is hard to find in stock in some places, and in my country it costs as much as a GTX 1080 while the vega 64 costs as much as a 1080ti.

As for the CPU side, intel may have released mainstream 6 core chips, but they still insist on locking their chips and having us pay a hefty premium for the K series. That alone makes me want to stay away. I was hopeful about the 8350k i3 quad core part, but it turns out it's quite a bit more expensive then a Ryzen 3 quad core (and that's just the chip - if you factor in the cost of a Z370 vs a B350 the price gap widens even more). Now why would someone get an 8350k + Z370 when for the same money you could get an R7 1600 + B350 and have two extra cores to play with is beyond me. Single thread performance? Meh. Most ryzen chips will do 4GHz on air, and even if they won't go over that speed, they are more then fast enough for me. The only advantage skylake/kaby lake/ coffee lake cores have is higher clocks. Performance per clock is extremely close to ryzen.

But I degrees. I bought intel chips in 2007 because AMD machines were struggling with the latest games, and I like my games smooth and shiny. The Phenom II line was pushed back so far it became sort of irrelevant when it launched, and the FX series released in 2010 was a huge mess. 8 core chips with 4 crippled floating point units and memory controllers with L3 cache that ran at half the CPU speed like it's 1998 made them poor gaming chips. Cache latency made some games stutter like crazy, even if the overall framarate was acceptable.

If the Phenom II launched the same year the Q9550 did, I would have stayed with AMD - but their first quad core parts were late, underclocked and were not very impressive. Oh well - I'm just glad they caught up now, and can't wait for to mess around with my R7 1700 rig (when it's done).

Reply 64 of 118, by DeafPK

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I see now that I am younger than many on this forum. No wonder the excitement and excellent knowledge around here 😀

Aside from scavenged 486'es from school in the early 2000's I bought these new:

2004 p4 prescott 3.4 GHz
2009 i7 920 (at 3.8 since week one, still does duty)
2011 i3 2.1 GHz (mediabox)
2014 i3 3.5 GHz (all-rounder itx box)
2017 Ryzen 1600X (go-to for heavy loads)

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Reply 65 of 118, by Cyberdyne

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In eastern europe, things moved a litle bit slower 😀

1996. 286-12
1997. 486 SX-33
1998. 486 DX2-66
1998. Pentium 133
1999. Pentium 166MMX
2000. Celeron 333
2001. Pentium lll 500

After that no DOS sound capability. So rest is history.

Ok Athlon XP 3000 and Core2Duo 8400 were some of my favourites.

I am aroused about any X86 motherboard that has full functional ISA slot. I think i have problem. Not really into that original (Turbo) XT,286,386 and CGA/EGA stuff. So just a DOS nut.

Reply 67 of 118, by aop

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1995 - Pentium 120 MHz (family's first computer, still have the CPU, sadly the computer itself was thrown away only like 2-3 years ago)
2000 - AMD K6-2 450 MHz (my first own PC, what a mistake as I got it for gaming and you know how well K6-2 does with 00's games)
2001 - Intel Celeron 800 MHz
2002 - Intel Tualatin Celeron 1100 MHz (OC'd to 1540MHz, damn mobo died about a month after getting the CPU)
2002 - AMD Athlon XP 1800+ Palomino
2003 - AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Tbred-B
2005 - AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice
2006 - AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego
2007 - Core 2 Duo E4300 (these chips were monster overclockers, hit 3 GHz easily)
2009 - AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE
2010 - AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE
2011 - Intel Core i5 2500K (still in use in my main rig @4.3 GHz)

Reply 68 of 118, by kanecvr

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2000 - AMD K6-2 450 MHz (my first own PC, what a mistake as I got it for gaming and you know how well K6-2 does with 00's games)

Got my K6 the same year (december 1999 actually) and had a blast with it. Played lots of games my 586 would have a hard time running too. It was a 400Mhz K6-2 overclocked to 450MHz (it did 500Mhz as well but I was afraid it would kill it even tough it seemed extremely stable at that clock) 64MB of ram (later upgraded to 192MB), Lucky Star P5MVP4 (on board ESS or Crystal audio + Trident Blade 3D), Creative Voodoo 2 12MB (left over from the 586), 4GB Samsung HDD. I played the following:

- Quake I (GL_Quake) - ran at 800x400 flawlesly
- Quake II
- Half Life
- Kingpin
- Homeworld
- Dungeon Keeper
- Dungeon Keeper II
- Black and White (ran poorly but playable)
- Homeworld Cataclysm
- Deus Ex
- Lego racers
- Uprising II
- MDK
- MDK II
- Red Alert II
- C&C Tiberian Sun
- Diablo II
- Mechwarrior III
- Age of Empires 1 and 2
- Rune
- Heavy Metal: F.A.K.K
+ All my old DOS games

The only games it had trouble with were Mechwarrior 4, Ground Control, Black and White and Homeworld when lots of ships were on screen. Then again even a 600MHz P3 stutters like crazy in homeworld when the action gets intense. In fact after messing around with the game on several machines, the slowest CPU you can comfortably run it on is an 800MHz PIII or Duron.

It was a great little machine that game me years of fun. In fact I got my sister got a K6-II @ 500Mhz overclocked to 550 Mhz, with 384MB of ram and a Riva TNT2 in 2002, and she managed to play Warcraft 3 on the thing. It actually ran half way decent once I upgraded her video card to a geforce 2 MX.

The K6-II was a great chip in 1999-2000 - it was dirt cheap and offered a lot more performance compared to the same price alternative. In fact I remember the 400MHz K6 + a P5MVP3 + Riva vanta cost as much as a 266Mhz Pentium II and wrecks it in both FPU and ALU performance. It was the smart buy of the time. I remember a 233Mhz Pentium II was about 500-550$ in 1999 - for that money I could get the 400MHz K6 + the P5MVP3 + 64Mb of SDRAM), so it was really no other choice since budget was extremely limited.

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Reply 69 of 118, by Ozzuneoj

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Before it was actually my computer, my family had these:

MOS 6502 (Commodore VIC 20)
8088 (Tandy 1000 HX)
66MHz 486? (Packard Bell desktop of some sort... I don't know which)
Cyrix 133 (Custom build)
*Pentium 200 MMX (to upgrade the Cyrix)

... Then once I started getting my own, main computers, I had:
*Pentium II 400Mhz (Gateway G6-400 which I still have)
Athlon 750 Slot A (Custom, from here on out...)
*Athlon Thunderbird 1333 AYHJA (cracked the die at some point... very sad)
Athlon XP 1800+ Palamino (space heater)
*Athlon XP 1700+ TBred B JIUHB (been overclocked to over 2Ghz since 2003, still works and runs cool)
*Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 939
*Athlon 64 4200+ Socket 939
Core 2 Duo E6750
Core 2 Quad Q9550
*Core i5 2500K (got basically for free because I sold the Q9550 for more than a 2500K cost... have now been using it since 2011, currently at 4.5Ghz, going strong)

Anything with a * I still own. 😀

There are several other misc CPUs I've had when they were still somewhat relevant, but weren't in my main system. Can't remember them all.

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Reply 70 of 118, by JidaiGeki

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Mix of CPUs in my own computers, and the family's computers, but it was only my dad who was the other computer user in the house for many years (my sisters weren't interested in computers). There's bound to be a few missed CPUs in my list from the 90s and 00s (e.g. think we had an NEC MMX laptop, played DOOM on it, but can't remember much else), but recent purchases are easier to track. Of these CPUs/machines, the earliest one I still have is the Thinkpad 360Cs, and the 2005 nx8220 and 2007 XPS420 are still in regular use.
1984 - 6502/Z80 (F)
1991 - 386SX-20
1992 - 386SX-25 (F)
1993 - 486SLC-25 (F) (Canon Notejet)
1994 - 68030 33 (Powerbook 150)
1996 - 486SX 33 (Thinkpad 360Cs)
1997 - Pentium 166 (F) (Gateway P5 166)
1998 - Pentium II 300
1998 - K6-2 300
2000 - PowerPC G3 500 (F) (Powerbook G3 Pismo)
Hazy memories of buying boxed P3 CPUs around '00-'02 ... including 2x boxed Tualatin-S 1.4GHz ...
2003 - P4 3.06GHz Northwood
2005 - Pentium M 740 (F) (hp NX8220)
2007 - Core 2 Quad 6600 (F) (Dell XPS420)
2008 - Atom 1.6GHz (MSI Wind U100)
2009 - Phenom X4 9850
2013 - i7-4700MQ (some ASUS laptop)
2013 - i7-4900MQ (Alienware 18 R3)
2016 - i5-6300U (Surface Pro 4)

Also guessing the intent is for desktop/laptop CPUs only, as with smartphone CPUs most of our lists might explode in size ...

Reply 71 of 118, by Mister Xiado

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1998 - K6-2 300
2009 - Core 2 Quad Q8200

Everything between was old stock or used. A Pentium 4 that I bought with insurance money was a few years old when I got it, I think. Hard to remember. The most aggravating thing is that the K6-2 was my first computer, and I still have it (in a new case) right next to me. My first game system, when it was still sorta-new was the Atari VCS. Let that sink in a bit. I have no incentive to build a newer system, and I'd rather not have more compromised hardware than I already do.

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Reply 72 of 118, by probnot

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I realize I misread the question 😐

So, I'm going to change mine to include the family PCs (since the 386 and 486 I had were definitely not new at the time). This is as far back as I can remember the details...

1993 - 486DX2-66
1995 - Cyrix 5x86 (unsure the variation, I just remember bragging to friends that we have a 586)
1997 - Intel Pentium MMX 200MHz
1999 - Intel Celeron 433MHz

...then shortly after, I upgraded my 486 to something new and no longer used the family PC.

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2000 - Celeron 633 2001 - Pentium 4 1.6GHz 2004 - Athlon XP 2500+ 2006 - Athlon64 X2 3800+ 2009 - Phenom II X4 925 2016 - Core i […]
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2000 - Celeron 633
2001 - Pentium 4 1.6GHz
2004 - Athlon XP 2500+
2006 - Athlon64 X2 3800+
2009 - Phenom II X4 925
2016 - Core i5 6600k

Reply 73 of 118, by Imperious

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1983 TMS9900 (In TI99/4A 16 bit cpu)
1989 Motorola 68000 (Amiga 500)
1994 Intel DX2-66
1996 Pentium 133
1997 Pentium 200mmx
1999 AMD K62-500
2000 AMD Duron 650
2003 Intel P4 2.6HT
2008 intel e5200 Pentium
2010 Intel i5-750

Atari 2600, TI994a, Vic20, c64, ZX Spectrum 128, Amstrad CPC464, Atari 65XE, Commodore Plus/4, Amiga 500
PC's from XT 8088, 486, Pentium MMX, K6, Athlon, P3, P4, 775, to current Ryzen 2600.

Reply 74 of 118, by kaputnik

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My PC CPUs, not counting old family computers, etc.

1997 - Pentium II 233MHz - My first own PC, bought it with my military service payoff.
1998 - Celeron 300A@450 MHz - The PII 233 died. Got an Asus P2B and this instead, great upgrade!
2000 - Athlon 1.2GHz (T-bird) - Compiled a Linux kernel in 20 mins! Insane! The mobo (Chaintech 7AJA2) is still going strong with a Thoroughbred XP 2400+ in one of my retro rigs.
2003 - Pentium 4 HT 2.8GHz (Prescott) - This was actually a great CPU in my opinion. Had to wait a few weeks for delivery, ordered it before the official release date, wanted HT and the faster FSB speed. Was well worth the wait, it really helped multitasking. Mobo died, forcing me to get the next CPU.
2006 - Pentium 4 HT 3.4GHz (Cedar Mill) - Kept this one for far too long, missing the whole C2D train. Upgraded to a Xeon X5470 just a few years ago, still my secondary rig. Funny thing about the P4 is that I didn't realize it supported EM64T before retiring it. Had it hackintoshed for some while just for the laughs, the world's only P4 Mac? 😁
2012 - Core i7 3770k. Still my main rig.

Reply 75 of 118, by aop

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*snip*

I didn't have that good experience with K6-2. The difference between it and fast Pentium II or Celeron rigs was ridiculous. Later that year some friends updated to AMD Duron CPUs and the difference was absolutely massive (I'd estimate they had atleast 3 times as much fps in Counter-Strike with the same video card). Deus Ex demo was one of the games my K6-2 450 MHz, 128MB RAM, Voodoo 3 2000 AGP and 13GB HDD setup really struggled back in the day. I'd be surprised if I had anything over 10 fps at 640*480.

In fact I have been playing around with my retro PC lately and the K6-2 is dog slow unless the games are specifically optimized for it. Even older stuff like Carmageddon II could get choppy. I slapped in a K6-III+ and that's a totally different beast (for example Carmageddon II is much smoother on it than on a similarly clocked K6-2) though it struggles with many games released in 2000 too.

Had I gotten a Celeron 300A or 333 and a decent motherboard instead of the K6-2 I bet I'd have been much happier in the long run.

Reply 76 of 118, by jade_angel

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The reason the K6-2 was interesting is that it was cheaper and used cheaper motherboards. It was never faster than any contemporary Intel design - it was never really even in striking distance. The K6-III+ was, kinda, but by the time it came out, the P2/400 or P2/450 ran rings around it. It could trade blows with a P2/333, at least. AMD didn't fight Intel on level terrain until the Athlon came out (and then it was slightly faster per clock as well as equally clocked). K6 vs P2 was a more unequal fight than Bulldozer vs Haswell. (At least Bulldozer rigs are fast enough for current-at-the-time games; the same could not be consistently said of the K6.)

I do remember that the cost delta between a K6 machine and a P2/P3 was quite large. The Celeron, not quite so much, but really, you had to overclock them to do well, and if you didn't know your onions, overclocking seemed like black magic.

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Reply 77 of 118, by dexvx

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My early upgrade path was quite sparse early on due to financial sitaution. These are my primary PC's, letters denote secondary.

1. 80286-12 (Zenith system)
2. Pentium 133 (Dell XPS, huge leap #1)
3. Celeron 400A (slot, huge leap #2)
4. Celeron 366@550 (Socket, realized 400A was not a good idea)
5. Celeron 533@800 (Was quite disappointing performance wise)
6. Pentium III 700@933 (not 100% stable)
7. Pentium4 1.6A@2.4 (huge leap #3)
7a. Athlon 1600+ @ 2100+ (backup)
7b. Tualatin Celeron 1.2A @ 1.6 (server)
8. Pentium4 2.4C @ 3.2
8a. Dell Inspiron laptop with Pentium-M 1.3
9. Pentium-M 735 1.6 @ 2.4
10. Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86 @ 2.33 (huge leap #4)
11. Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ stock (stopped overclocking because what's the point?)
11a. Athlon II X250 (HTPC)
11b. Asus Laptop with Core 2 Duo T9600
12. Core i7-2600K @ stock (huge leap #5)
13. Core i5-3550 ES @ stock (forgot why I downgraded, but I sold my 2600K)
13a. Core i5-4670T (HTPC)
13b. Xeon E3-1280 v3 (Server)
14. Core i7-6700K @ stock
14a. Dell XPS 13 laptop with Core i7-6500U

Currently waiting for Coffee Lake boards to become cheaper.

Also 🤣 @ the person claiming I was an AMD fanboi.

Reply 78 of 118, by emosun

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this thread saddens me , I have never bought a cpu when it was considered new"

every cpu i've ever owned was used or a few years out of date.even my 4k gamming pc has an 8 year old motherboard in it. 🤣

Reply 79 of 118, by probnot

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emosun wrote:

this thread saddens me , I have never bought a cpu when it was considered new"

every cpu i've ever owned was used or a few years out of date.even my 4k gamming pc has an 8 year old motherboard in it. 🤣

That doesn't sound sad, it sounds smart. If you don't need a brand new system, you can save a ton by using an older machine (especially nowadays). I upgraded my PC a lot in the 2000s mainly because I work in a computer store and the temptation was too great.