I tried installing that NUSB driver but it messes with system files too much. I just use driver from this website: http://toastytech.com/files/cruzerwin95.html

it works with every USB drive I tried. Just plug the stick and select INF file with driver. Next time devices should be installed automatically.

Try to confirm that the USB stick is actually working OK on a newer system. Many cheap USB sticks are fake and have problems writing/reading from it.

Im using this older version of the USB package, it has worked with every old Socket-7 motherboard (with USB) I have tried it on so far! 😀

You might need to insert the USB stick twice after installing and rebooting as the detection of USB sticks can be a bit slow the first time on some systems.

kixs wrote:

Try to confirm that the USB stick is actually working OK on a newer system. Many cheap USB sticks are fake and have problems writing/reading from it.

USB stick is working on other, newer systems. There's nothing wrong with USB stick. It's genuine Sony bought at Sony Center.

adalbert wrote:

I tried installing that NUSB driver but it messes with system files too much. I just use driver from this website: http://toastytech.com/files/cruzerwin95.html

it works with every USB drive I tried. Just plug the stick and select INF file with driver. Next time devices should be installed automatically.

Does it work also with Windows ME ?

Sometimes you can't let Win98 install the drivers automatically, you have to pick the correct one yourself as the USB-drive driver package often contains more than one driver.

Could it be possibly something to do with the new USB stick having problems with pre-USB 2.0 ports?
If you happen to have an XP rig which still has some USB 1.1 ports to rule out if it's a hardware issue (in this case it won't work in any USB 1.1 port, no matter what OS you use) or a software issue (if it works in XP, then it might be related to something about 9x in general).
The large file you were trying to copy from the USB drive...it wasn't larger than 2GB? Iiuc the older 32 bit OS's had some issues with files exceeding 2GB.

Other than that, I don't know

Did you try to install the USB port drivers? I remember that my VIA USB card did not work reliably unless VIA drivers were installed.

Tetrium wrote:

Could it be possibly something to do with the new USB stick having problems with pre-USB 2.0 ports?
If you happen to have an XP rig which still has some USB 1.1 ports to rule out if it's a hardware issue (in this case it won't work in any USB 1.1 port, no matter what OS you use) or a software issue (if it works in XP, then it might be related to something about 9x in general).

Maybe I will try to install other operating system (Windows 2000, Windows XP, ...) just to check if the USB stick is working fine with these USB ports.

The large file you were trying to copy from the USB drive...it wasn't larger than 2GB? Iiuc the older 32 bit OS's had some issues with files exceeding 2GB. Other than that, I don't know

The files are not that large. Thank you anyway.

Unfortunately under Windows XP the USB stick is also not working. Could someone recommend any PCI USB hub for Windows 98 ?

maybe the stick has a weak connection?

On 1 of my PCs the usb stick is not working when fully inserted, only Leds are Lightning.

I have to pull it 1 millimeters back to make electrical connection.

Any USB1.1 PCI cards should work... NEC USB 2.0 PCI cards should also be fine.

You don't need third party drivers to use flash drives in Windows 98. The default Microsoft driver works fine, you just have to insert the Windows 98 installation cd when it ask you for drivers and it'll find it there.

brotalnia wrote:

You don't need third party drivers to use flash drives in Windows 98. The default Microsoft driver works fine, you just have to insert the Windows 98 installation cd when it ask you for drivers and it'll find it there.

Incorrect. Win98 doesn't support the USB mass storage device class by default, required for flash drivers to work in a generic way, so you need to provide vendor drivers,which will add the support, but in a per-vendor/per-device fashion.
From Win9x OS family, only Windows ME has support built in for UMS, and will recognize flash drives without 3rd party drivers.

hyoenmadan wrote:

brotalnia wrote:

You don't need third party drivers to use flash drives in Windows 98. The default Microsoft driver works fine, you just have to insert the Windows 98 installation cd when it ask you for drivers and it'll find it there.

Incorrect. Win98 doesn't support the USB mass storage device class by default, required for flash drivers to work in a generic way, so you need to provide vendor drivers,which will add the support, but in a per-vendor/per-device fashion.
From Win9x OS family, only Windows ME has support built in for UMS, and will recognize flash drives without 3rd party drivers.

So i am imagining things and the hundreds of times i've transferred files to my windows 98 pc through usb didn't actually happen? Go try it yourself! Do a clean install of Windows 98, insert a flash drive and tell it to search for drivers on the installation cd. It finds a driver, installs it and works. No need to download anything.

Been there, done that. It never worked for me. I either had to install NUSB3.3 or use 98SE2ME to transplant ME's drivers into Windows 98 - neither of which is very straightforward when I wanted to keep my installs in PT-BR. I believe those are also included with the Unofficial Service Pack.

@brotalnia: You might have just been lucky that the USB sticks you were using had drivers that shipped with Windows, but looking around on Google, most people aren't so lucky.

I guess you could edit the .inf files for some of the drivers to make them work with other devices, but I did find this mass storage class driver from Microsoft for 98SE, except it's source only so you have to compile it yourself. I wonder whether anyone has the 98DDK set up to try it out? If it works they could distribute the compiled driver to make the process easier.

Those having problems with NUSB3.3 should try NUSB24e (linked in my last post).

Malvineous wrote:

@brotalnia: You might have just been lucky that the USB sticks you were using had drivers that shipped with Windows, but looking around on Google, most people aren't so lucky.

This. Win98 has a few set of drivers for some USB mass storage chipsets, but it doesn't support this class in a generic way. Many new pendrives will not work with these old drivers.

WinME, by contrary, has generic support for the USB MS class.