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First post, by feipoa

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According to Wiki, USB 2.0 emerged April 2000. I have three PIII-Tualatin boards which were produced 2001-2002, but they all have USB 1.1 ports. It is unfortunate, but does beg the question - did any PIII desktop motherboards come with native USB 2.0 ports? What about laptops?

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Reply 2 of 14, by Scraphoarder

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The Compaq EVO n410c have a P3 1200 and USB2.0. I got two of this very nice 12" laptop.
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetHTML.aspx?docname=c04282881

Reply 3 of 14, by Skyscraper

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Scraphoarder wrote:

The Compaq EVO n410c have a P3 1200 and USB2.0. I got two of this very nice 12" laptop.
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetHTML.aspx?docname=c04282881

I got one of those aswell, I have had it since new.

I recently bought a docking station and a DVD-drive for it, I also upgraded the memory first to 512MB then a few years ago to 1GB. The only thing I need to do now to make it perfect is to replace the CMOS battery, the original main battery still holds charge!

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Reply 4 of 14, by swaaye

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There aren't any Socket 370 boards with VT8235 and AGP? I like the Athlon boards with the KT333+VT8235 combo. You get 3.3v AGP support and native USB 2.0 that works well.

Reply 5 of 14, by candle_86

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I don't really remember USB 2.0 taking off until late 2001/early 2002 thats when I remember I started seeing it on everything and with Socket 370 looking EOL for socket 423/478 I can't image alot of resouces going into 370 outside of updates for Tutalin support. After P4 launched most people went to P4 except for people buying Celerons from Wal-Mart and they wouldn't know the difference between USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.

Reply 6 of 14, by Scraphoarder

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candle_86 wrote:

I don't really remember USB 2.0 taking off until late 2001/early 2002 thats when I remember I started seeing it on everything and with Socket 370 looking EOL for socket 423/478 I can't image alot of resouces going into 370 outside of updates for Tutalin support. After P4 launched most people went to P4 except for people buying Celerons from Wal-Mart and they wouldn't know the difference between USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.

Even Pentium 4 Intel 845 based desktops like Compaq EVO D500 and Dell Optiplex GX240 only had USB1.1. We had dozens of theese at my workplace and seldom more speed were need except for some scanners and printers. Mostly mice and keyboards were plugged in for daily usage. Burning CDs or DVDs were also common for archiving and transferring files, but USBsticks began to show up.

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Reply 7 of 14, by mmx_91

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Scraphoarder wrote:
candle_86 wrote:

I don't really remember USB 2.0 taking off until late 2001/early 2002 thats when I remember I started seeing it on everything and with Socket 370 looking EOL for socket 423/478 I can't image alot of resouces going into 370 outside of updates for Tutalin support. After P4 launched most people went to P4 except for people buying Celerons from Wal-Mart and they wouldn't know the difference between USB 1.1 and USB 2.0.

Even Pentium 4 Intel 845 based desktops like Compaq EVO D500 and Dell Optplex GX240 only had USB1.1. We had dozens of theese at my workplace and seldomt more speed were need except for some scanners and printers. Mostly mice and keyboards were plugged in for daily usage. Burning CDs or DVDs were also common for archiving and transferring files, but USBsticks began to show up.

I also remember installing an USB 2.0 PCI card on my computer back then, a P4 with the i845 onboard, and it was indeed 1.1

AFAIK, onboard USB 2.0 became popular in P4 Northwood / Athlon T-Bred era, for what I remember

Reply 8 of 14, by NJRoadfan

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Intel didn't support USB 2.0 until ICH4, so mostly late i845 boards have it. I know my parent's old Dell Dimension 4400 (i845) purchased April of 2002 was only USB 1.1.

Reply 9 of 14, by candle_86

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yep right around the time normal people started buying External Hard Drives and normal people learned what a thumb drive was. USB 1.1 was sufficient for input devices.

Reply 11 of 14, by Tetrium

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Would be interesting to know if there were any s370 boards out there with onboard USB 2.0 by using a 3rd-party chip.
I really don't know whether these exist or not, but chances could actually be not that bad.
I never bothered to actually find out which ones (and if!) have USB 2.0, as (like stated by some others here) I saw no need for the extra speed, I barely ever noticed or missed it. Would probably be easier to add a separate 2.0 USB card anyway.

Perhaps a good way to look for such boards would be to find out which USB 2.0 chips were made during the late s370 motherboard production era, as those chips might have been used on those motherboards.

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Reply 12 of 14, by candle_86

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I found one, Jetway 623DMP

http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/motherboard_view. … &proname=623DMP

if you can find one

Reply 14 of 14, by dr_st

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NJRoadfan wrote:

Intel didn't support USB 2.0 until ICH4, so mostly late i845 boards have it.

Yep. Which is why manufacturers who wanted USB2.0 where integrating third party controllers, like the NEC USB2.0 controller which is used on the Evo N610c laptops (and I assume the N410c as well).

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