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First post, by keenerb

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I'd like to connect a printer occasionally to my late 80's/early 90's PCs.

Any suggestions for a modern printer that might have fairly good compatibility? I'm thinking anything that supports basic PCL/Laserjet compatibility might do the trick.

https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP-LaserJet … !g!54850045493!

That has a parallel port, but I've got no idea if hardware PCL is even a thing anymore, or if it's all GID/winprinter stuff these days.

Reply 1 of 10, by zstandig

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My dad hooks up a relatively new (2005ish) Lexmark laser printer to his AT tower to print stuff out on occasion. It hooks up via parallel. I remember when he first did it I was skeptical but he insisted it would work and it does. He uses some kind of tax database program on DOS.

Reply 2 of 10, by gdjacobs

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ASCII output as well as PCL and/or PS should print correctly, depending on printer support.

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Reply 3 of 10, by Sammy

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I use an second PC as a "Converter" from Postscript to GDI-Printer.

The old PC just see a shared Postscript Printer on Network.

But the other PC takes the Data, renders the Postscript to a Graphic and prints it to the USB-Windows-GDI-Printer.

Reply 4 of 10, by zerker

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I've got an HP LaserJet 1320 from 2005 which works perfectly with the built-in Windows 3.1 PCL drivers. I even found newer Windows 3.1 drivers from the HP Website for a LaserJet 4M I think, which let me use the built-in duplexer from my printer. Apparently the PCL commands for that were compatible too 😁

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Reply 5 of 10, by gdjacobs

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Sammy wrote:

I use an second PC as a "Converter" from Postscript to GDI-Printer.

The old PC just see a shared Postscript Printer on Network.

But the other PC takes the Data, renders the Postscript to a Graphic and prints it to the USB-Windows-GDI-Printer.

That's unlikely to work for DOS software that outputs directly to LPT.

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Reply 6 of 10, by Sammy

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i didn't try it, but i think it is possible to map a network printer to LPT und dos / win3.x
NET USE LPT1 //server/printer

Old software can be used with Dosprint.
It captures data send to lpt and redirect it to a windows printer.

But you need a more modern system like XP for that.

I tested it with word 5.5 for dos.
It prints to lpt1, but dosprint redirect it to one of the known windows printers you choose.

Reply 7 of 10, by gdjacobs

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Unfortunately, that doesn't work for pure DOS. Direct hardware calls are intercepted in certain audio drivers (SoftMPU and SBPCI DOS drivers), but this imposes certain limitations and requirements. Perhaps a hardware solution connected to the LPT port might be doable?

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Reply 8 of 10, by darry

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I'm thinking anything that supports basic PCL/Laserjet compatibility might do the trick.

That or PostScript would be great, if your dos applications support it .

Then, if you can configure your dos applications to print to files instead of an actual parallel (lpt) port, you would only need to copy the resulting files to any computer with a working printer and process/print with GhostPCL or GhostScript .

Reply 9 of 10, by Jo22

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PCL ? Isn't that too new ?
I thought HPGL was more common in the mid-late 80s..

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Reply 10 of 10, by darry

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According to Wikipedia, PCL 1 and 3 were introduced in products launched in 1984 .

HPGL was initially designed for plotters but apparently was supported by HP printers as well (Wikipedia). I do not know how common software support for it was.
HPGL/2 functionality was integrated into PCL5 (no idea if it is backward compatible with HPGL).

I used a Fujitsu DL900 in the early to mid 90s and had to IBM Proprinter XL24 and Epson LQ-2550 emulation most of the time, but those protocols have likely long been abandoned.
I do recall that HP Laserjet II (PCL4, I believe) was often offered as an option in programs I used at the time .