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Xi 8088 by Segey Kiselev

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Reply 20 of 613, by BloodyCactus

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nice! my one part mouser didnt have that jameco did came today. the tiny trim pot 🤣! so small. just waiting on my v20 from china.

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Reply 22 of 613, by BloodyCactus

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sockets and decoupling caps, battery holder, ps2 connections...

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Reply 23 of 613, by keenerb

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Apparantly I ordered the wrong RTC:

Do you think the DS12C887+ will be compatible with DS12887A+ that the BOM suggests?

www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Maxim-Inte ... J8VExDE%3d

vs.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Maxim-Int … P35CksHxtng8%3D

The only difference I can see seems to be that the suggested part has "binary" date/time, but one of the Jameco suggested pieces does as well. Does the "C" stand for CMOS as it did for some of the other parts?

Also, I JUST realized I have no way to program the BIOS on this thing...

Reply 24 of 613, by brassicGamer

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keenerb wrote:

Also, I JUST realized I have no way to program the BIOS on this thing...

https://www.flashrom.org/Flashrom

Use a NIC with an EEPROM socket 😀

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Reply 25 of 613, by keenerb

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Actually my XT-IDE adapter uses a 32kb SST flash, I wonder if I can use that to flash the chip.

Well yeah, it looks like the part number for the xi8088 is the same as the part I ordered for my lo-tech xt-ide card? that's odd.

*edit*

Yeah even HMM'er, I thought that the xt-ide part was 32kb, but it's 128kb * 8, so it's exactly the same part. that explains why I had such a hard time with a second rom that shouldn't have overlapped.

SO yeah, I should 100% be able to use my lotech xt-ide adapter to flash that chip, yay me.

*/edit*

Reply 26 of 613, by BloodyCactus

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I have a genius G840, it can do the SST 39SF010A from the BOM. If you get desperate, I can burn it for you. I can burn the SST ones, not sure about the Greenliant ones (probably, it should be the exact same pinout).

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Reply 27 of 613, by BloodyCactus

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looks like the DS12887A and the DS12C887A are the same. They share the datasheet. Looks like the C version has a century register/byte in the midst of its ram page that the non-C versions dont have.

if the board does not use the ram on the rtc (I dont know), it will be ok.

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Reply 28 of 613, by keenerb

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Looks like the clock RAM is the cmos setup ram.

*edit*

Aha.

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------
; locations in RTC and NVRAM
cmos_seconds equ 00h ; seconds location in RTC
cmos_alarm_secs equ 01h ; alarm seconds location in RTC

<etc>

cmos_equip equ 14h ; equipment byte
cmos_sum_hi equ 2Eh ; checksum of bytes 10h - 20h - high byte
cmos_sum_lo equ 2Fh ; checksum of bytes 10h - 20h - low byte
cmos_century equ 32h ; centry location in RTC (DS12C887 only)

Looks like the rtc.inc file already accounts for the century location in the DS12C887, and also only uses bytes 10h - 20h anyway so there'd be no overlap.

yay.

Reply 31 of 613, by keenerb

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🙁

Frys has a 74S74 in stock. I was thinking that should just be a faster version of ALS/LS, but it describes it in the datasheet as an "edge-triggered" flip-flop?

Think that'll work?

Reply 32 of 613, by stamasd

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So close, yet so far.

FWIW all 74xx74 are edge-triggered. Go for it. http://web.mit.edu/6.111/www/s2007/datasheets/74LS74.pdf https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/DM/DM74ALS74A.pdf

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 33 of 613, by keenerb

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Ah thanks. The descriptions on mouser/digikey were subtly different, so i wasn't 100% positive. I'll pick up a few today at lunch and hopefully be playing Conquest of Camelot on this just after dinner.

Reply 34 of 613, by keenerb

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Frys only had one 74S74, the others are 74LS74...

Still had to order some off the internet. I'll try the 74LS74 and at least see if I can get a boot. May have to disable turbo or it may not work at all, but I'll try...

Reply 35 of 613, by stamasd

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Seriously, at 8MHz (and even more so at 4.77) LS vs. S vs. F vs. AHCT vs. ACT vs. HCT vs. ALS is moot. Any will work.

Worry about propagation delay per gate once you get into the 30-40MHz range only.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 36 of 613, by keenerb

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This is just damned idiotic.

I can't flash with the xt-ide flash.exe because it won't flash anything larger than 64k, and the xiflash isn't usable because it refuses any address < E000.

Reply 37 of 613, by stamasd

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The second half of bios128k.bin is blank. I have cut the first half that has the actual code, and am attaching it here. Try it.

Also let me see if I can compile a version of xiflash without the E000 limit.

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    bios64k-0.9.bin.zip
    File size
    12.11 KiB
    Downloads
    61 downloads
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 38 of 613, by keenerb

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R.I.P. my board, maybe?

I managed to get the 32kb section of actual code flashed but it wouldn't boot. I placed the jumper to enable the on-board speaker (jumpers 1+ 2), powered it on, and immediately smelled smoke.

Turned everything off and re-checked. Apparantly I jumpered 3 + 4, not 1 + 2, so I shorted +5v to ground. I have no idea if this may have damaged anything.

Reply 39 of 613, by stamasd

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Try this xiflash, it should have the E000 limit removed.

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    xiflash-fixed.zip
    File size
    37.23 KiB
    Downloads
    73 downloads
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O