That's the first time I've ever seen a 1TB IDE drive. Assuming it's legit, then I wonder if it would fit the spacing of the connectors in a PS2.
I have a 750GB Seagate which fits a PS2 but I don't think it would live long in there because of heat. But a Green drive could work well in such a thing, if it didn't cost so much.

NJRoadfan wrote:

Those large parallel ATA drives are actually bridged SATA drives. The board should have a bridge chip on it. True parallel ATA drives likely didn't see much past 250-300GB in size. Western Digital kept an 80GB PATA drive in production for a long time, likely for compatibility applications. True PATA interface plus under the 28-bit LBA limit for size. That drive might have had the 8.4GB limit jumper on it too.

EDIT: That WD Green 1TB drive is likely a fake. WD never made them with PATA interfaces, buyer beware.

If there’s a bridge chip, I wonder if you could modify a large capacity SATA drive to be an IDE as long as the drives' metal casing is the same.

luckybob wrote:

I literally have a PILE of 320gb sata drives with ide/sata converters. They work just fine in everything i've ever used. Bios limits notwithstanding, they worked fine even on 386 machines. It was slightly humorous to see the bios limit the drive to 8gb, but still, it worked. It surprises me to see >500gb ide drives. I was always under the impression they abruptly stopped at 500gb.

There is no real reason to make ide drives anymore.

Also, speaking of cheap converters, the ones I have, the power connectors are BACKWARDS from what would seem logical. I've fried TWO drives and adapters doing this.

I don't know about using significantly larger drives in ancient systems like a 386. I remember my K6-2 333 IBM Aptiva would not boot with a 32GB sized Pata drive and in another story I put a 1TB Sata drive in a 2003-ish Emachine with a socket 754 Sempron and it would freeze on the bios logo screen too. I don't know how you make it work, other than updating the Bios.

Well then again I just read a bit about the Seatools app that can "trick" the Bios to see a lower disk capacity. That is cool. I ought to check it out for myself. Thanks.

computergeek92 wrote:

If there’s a bridge chip, I wonder if you could modify a large capacity SATA drive to be an IDE as long as the drives' metal casing is the same.

Western Digital has quite a problem with counterfeit products using their name. Its more commonly found with their external drive products, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is trying it with their internal drives as well. That image appears to be a Photoshop special. Note the drive label still says its a SATA drive.

https://community.wd.com/t/is-this-a-genuine- … -wd-drive/14571

NJRoadfan wrote:

That WD Green 1TB drive is likely a fake. WD never made them with PATA interfaces, buyer beware.

I seen a lot of PATA green ware I live to know this is not true. Not saying this one is not fake. it probably is now that I take a seond look at it, that or just a sata hdd with a pata controller witch can work with some hacking.

I do know that PATA greens are real. They were more of a regional thing. But his is the first one I seen that was a second gen green or newer.

It seems like the effort it takes to fake hard drives would make it difficult to be a profitable scam.

Biggest IDE drive that I know of is this 750GB Seagate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRXbKzvqRwY

computergeek92 wrote:

Well then again I just read a bit about the Seatools app that can "trick" the Bios to see a lower disk capacity. That is cool. I ought to check it out for myself. Thanks.

Yeah....
It's an old trick that are widespread.
I have done it on a couple of 250gb drives in the past.

Jade Falcon wrote:

I do know that PATA greens are real. They were more of a regional thing. But his is the first one I seen that was a second gen green or newer.

WD never made Green drives with PATA interfaces, only Caviar Blue (max size 500GB). Depending on where "here" is, you might have a problem with counterfeit items. Countless factories in China can crank out some very convincing copies of things these days.

Admittedly uncommon, but one potential situation in which a SATA drive with a PATA adapter simply will not work is that where a drive with a converter won't physically fit in the drive bay. I encountered this exact problem with a security camera DVR at work. The way this particular DVR was designed also made using a 2.5in drive in a mounting bracket infeasible. So, there is the occasional situation where pure PATA is the only viable solution.

You'll probably get stuck at 33MB/sec (UDMA-2) operation with a IDE to SATA adapter.

NJRoadfan wrote:

Jade Falcon wrote:

I do know that PATA greens are real. They were more of a regional thing. But his is the first one I seen that was a second gen green or newer.

WD never made Green drives with PATA interfaces, only Caviar Blue (max size 500GB). Depending on where "here" is, you might have a problem with counterfeit items. Countless factories in China can crank out some very convincing copies of things these days.

Frist gen green were sold with pata they were not sold as retail hdd's, I only seen them come out of OEM systems here in the states.

The largest IDE hard drive is the one on the far left. 😉

clueless1 wrote:

The largest IDE hard drive is the one on the far left. 😉

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Heh, should i feel guilty for using a 500GB IDE on a board which supports Sata? :0

Because now that i've read this thread i kind of do.

If it's SATA1, then no.
If it's SATA2/3 then kinda guilty...but at least no paying for a SATA patch for 98SE...unless the mobo has sata drivers for 98SE like ASRock ones 😀

But who doesn't like those "pretty" IDE cables?

As for the topic, 750GB is the maximum...any bigger is probably fake or from an no-name company with zero guaranty that it won't blow your house after few years of use...

MrMateczko wrote:

If it's SATA1, then no.
If it's SATA2/3 then kinda guilty...but at least no paying for a SATA patch for 98SE...unless the mobo has sata drivers for 98SE like ASRock ones 😀

But who doesn't like those "pretty" IDE cables?

It's some Asus sk754 motherboard so i'm almost positive it's Sata1.

I rarely come across with anything IDE with more than 200GB, only if it's recovered from some old surveillance DVR unit, but often those drives are already quite beaten. I also have a 250GB IDE hard drive that came from such unit with more than 61000 hours of use, and ZERO reallocated sectors...incredible.

rick6 wrote:

I also have a 250GB IDE hard drive that came from such unit with more than 61000 hours of use, and ZERO reallocated sectors...incredible.

That's really impressive. A gem of a drive. Just run DiskFresh or SpinRite on it a couple of times a year and it will probably last forever. That is my secret to keeping hard drives from going bad. I have a ton of very old drives, some in use, some out of service. I try to SpinRite or DiskFresh them on a schedule (once or twice a year for drives out of service, more frequently for drives in service) and never had a drive develop bad sectors that's gone through this regiment.

I've had a Samsung 300GB (sold for a acquaintance that kept asking me for selling it so he could stuff it into his Xbox) and still have a Seagate 400GB. Didn't know there were IDE drives larger than 400GB.