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First post, by Dropcik

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So I bought a mb 1325/33vt on ebay earlier this week. I had a 386 awhile ago, but it had its own set of troubles. (blown capacitors, dead fdc, not seeing memory, ect.) So I have a few questions about getting one of these working correctly (or with few issues as possible)

First problem for me is the ram. I was able to find only 3x256 sticks, and the memory configurations for the board are all in 4 sets on 2 banks. Will it even boot with 2-3?

Second, is controller card compatibility. Is it plug and play, or are there extra steps to it?

Lastly, is a amd 386dx40 compatible with any 386 board or are there cpu restrictions set by the manufacturer?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Ayy LMAO

Reply 1 of 9, by stamasd

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1. no you will need to install 30-pin SIMMs in groups of 4. The reason being each SIMM is 8-bit and they are seen by the CPU in parallel as a 32-bit memory bank. 3 of them won't work.

2. depends on the board's BIOS and on the OS you want to use, as well as which cards you want to use.

3. Several factors, most importantly if the motherboard can generate the appropriate FSB, i.e. if it has an appropriate oscillator and if it can be configured to generate 40MHz FSB. Also, if the motherboard supports DX 386 chips (which have a 32-bit external bus, as opposed to SX which are 16-bit externally; some cheap motherboards were made to only support the latter)

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 2 of 9, by kixs

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Won't repead what stamasd said...

2. controllers are not Plug and Play but usually you just install it and it will work. If it doesn't you should check the jumpers.

3. what kind of cpu is installed at the moment? Usually the oscillator has to be changed to match the frequency (speed) of cpu. In this case you should use 80MHz oscillator for 40MHz cpu operation.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 3 of 9, by stamasd

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Is this the motherboard you bought? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MB-1325-33VT- … =p2047675.l2557

I can't see what the oscillator is, as it's covered by a ziptie in the pictures. But based on the fact that a 25MHz CPU is installed, I assume it's 50MHz.

I don't see much in terms of jumpers, so I don't think there's much to configure. And the chipset is VL82C330 "Topcat" which AFAIK only goes up to 33MHz anyway. Thus, even if you were to unsolder the oscillator and solder an new one for a higher frequency, I doubt you'd be able to overclock the chipset successfully all the way to 40MHz.

Here's a very brief datasheet of the chipset http://www.datasheetarchive.com/dl/Scans-091/ … HI000173545.pdf

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 5 of 9, by Dropcik

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And yes, It is that exact board. Im trying to get everything together for it. So for right now Ill have to buy more ram for it to even boot up. Ill need a new controller as my old one picks up the ide drive I will be using, It fails to see any floppy drives. The jumpers are configured properly on it, and I used multiple drives with the same result. The dx40 sounds like a no go, might try a faster oscillator for 33mhz operation.

Ayy LMAO

Reply 6 of 9, by stamasd

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With a 66MHz oscillator you should be able to use a 386DX40 CPU underclocked to 33MHz.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 9 of 9, by 386_junkie

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stamasd wrote:

With a 66MHz oscillator you should be able to use a 386DX40 CPU underclocked to 33MHz.

Affirmative... I do it all the time.

Besides, downgrading can be just as much fun as upgrading... I've reduced many a system designed to run 486's... to a 386. 😁

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