YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2017-11-29 @ 06:47

dr.zeissler wrote:Sorry for that late answer. Here it is. ESS-Solo1 DOS ready to go.

The ESS works up to I865GV very well. From I915 upwards the digisound does crash/freeze the machine. Adlib works just fine. A Covox still works on I915, but the ESS in Digisound anymore. My fastest machine therefore is a P4/2,26 with I865GV (Scenic C610 ThinClient).

Finally got the time to try it out on a P4C800-E Deluxe (875P/ICH5R). Still I can't get digitized sound working on games like Doom (starts, but with no sound effects) and Duke Nukem 3D (can't detect DMA). I had a look at the spesifications of the ESS ES1946 that's similar to the ES1938 and used PCISET to try out other TDMA modes listed in the ES1946 datasheets with various results. Best result I got with TDMA4 (bits 2:0 set to 111 at offset 51h) with DN3D running for several minutes with sound effects before the game crashed. :dead:

Think I'll stick to the PC/PCI interface or VIA chipsets for the Solo-1.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby dr.zeissler » 2017-11-29 @ 08:34

I am awaiting my DSS adapter, so everything will be fine. I'll stick to my C610 (i865gv) with SOLO1,
because it's fantastic small, silent, excellent imagequality, do/me/win2k (nt4 drivers are possible too)
and I checked out dgvoodoo (because beside a v3-pci, no voodoo-card fit's in the case) and dgvoodoo
runs beautiful with POD. It runs better (with less problems) a real voodoo-card causes with that game.
(but I have to figure out, how I can use the cd-audio for the Pod-Gold rip. GOG-Version seems to use
no RedBook-Audio, but will perhaps not run due to WinXP recommendation).
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2017-12-03 @ 02:59

poke any info?
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2017-12-23 @ 23:18

no information about my problem?
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-3-13 @ 14:14

how dose one hack their setupds.exe?
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby cyclone3d » 2018-3-13 @ 16:56

sparky4 wrote:how dose one hack their setupds.exe?


See these threads for info on hacking setupds.exe
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=48133
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=48553

And here is my google drive link to all the already modified setupds.exe
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx6yUkEXCMV-NkY5RklBLWNjT1k
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-20 @ 18:59

i have an sblive ct4830 on a p4 motherboard the mobo is a hp dx6100. no reserve irq 5 in bios. using the wdm drivers i have sound in dos inside win98se. but i cant get sound in pure dos i have instaled the dossound driver the driver report initialisation complete but no sound. on an older p3 mobo i have success with pure dos sound. is the mobo uncompatible? or a differend pci sound card will do?? also i can assingn irq 5 manually but same irq is automaticly sets on my pci-e videocard
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-3-20 @ 19:18

truemaster wrote:i have an sblive ct4830 on a p4 motherboard the mobo is a hp dx6100. no reserve irq 5 in bios. using the wdm drivers i have sound in dos inside win98se. but i cant get sound in pure dos i have instaled the dossound driver the driver report initialisation complete but no sound. on an older p3 mobo i have success with pure dos sound. is the mobo uncompatible?

Yes, not compatible with the Intel 915G chipset.
or a differend pci sound card will do?? also i can assingn irq 5 manually but same irq is automaticly sets on my pci-e videocard

Aureal Vortex or YMF7x4 PCI might work.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-20 @ 19:24

thanks worth a try. the question is which is the better at least for sound inside windows98
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-3-20 @ 19:26

sparky4 wrote:no information about my problem?

Have you tried with less physical RAM yet, like 512MB?
sparky4 wrote:how dose one hack their setupds.exe?

Won't help in your case as your chipset/motherboard doesn't support DDMA or PC/PCI.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-3-20 @ 19:29

truemaster wrote:thanks worth a try. the question is which is the better at least for sound inside windows98

For Windows games go get an Aureal Vortex 2 (AU8830) as it supports A3D 2.0.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-24 @ 09:12

instead of buying a soundcard for a possible uncompatible mobo, i buy a p5b-e plus mobo that has the reserve irq for legacy option, for now. and posibly later i willl buy a better audio card.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-3-26 @ 18:19

Kamerat wrote:
sparky4 wrote:no information about my problem?

Have you tried with less physical RAM yet, like 512MB?

sparky4 wrote:how dose one hack their setupds.exe?

Won't help in your case as your chipset/motherboard doesn't support DDMA or PC/PCI.


not yet

Do you know what is the chipset i use??
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-3-26 @ 18:58

sparky4 wrote:not yet

Do you know what is the chipset i use??

No, think I did a little mix up there. So what motherboard and chipset do you use?
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-3-27 @ 13:23

Kamerat wrote:No, think I did a little mix up there. So what motherboard and chipset do you use?


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[08:20:23][~]
[sparky4@compy4]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) Thermal Subsystem (rev 02)
0d:00.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller (rev 01)
11:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller] (rev 03)
11:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)
11:03.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby dr.zeissler » 2018-3-27 @ 14:17

hopefully you will not use the dvi of the 6200 because it's blurry blurry blurry in plain dos.
Using the VGA the output is good but not centered (textmode/VGA-256/EGA-16).
Beside that it's a fantastic card. It can run the matrox-reef-demo and nearly all
ATI-Techdemos up to the 9800stuff.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-3-27 @ 17:21

@sparky4

That chipset doesn't support DDMA, so there is no help in modifying SETUPDS.EXE.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-30 @ 14:04

ok i buy the mobo. i have audio with the irq5 reserved or irq 7 reserved. but i have errors with dma both lo and high. any ideas
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby cyclone3d » 2018-3-30 @ 14:52

Have you tried a different PCI slot?

What are the exact settings you are using in the setupds.exe configuration utility?

Post pics if possible.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-30 @ 15:30

no no other pci slot. i use sblive ct4830.
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