luckybob wrote:

I live in Denver, there is NO water around of any significant size. Sharks would be so very expensive to maintain.

You'd think so, but Denver is the only place in the world where I was able to eat an alligator steak. (true story)

Those alligators must live *somewhere*, man.

http://denverzoo.org/

So then you could keep your sharks there. Problem solved.

Personally I keep mine in the Long Island Sound. Convenient access, and cuts down on feeding costs. Plus helps control the population of sunbathers. Those beaches were pretty crowded before. Oceanfront property is more affordable too as an added bonus. 😁

My recommendation would be 440BX -> Asus P2B, Asus P3B-F. Unbeatable stability!
I also like the Apollo133A! --> AGP4x, 2GB max mem (or more?), UDMA 66 - good features!

@luckybob
Boulder is a great place!

archsan wrote:

My advice: take it slow, read a lot of magazines/articles from the era and research a lot. (I'd suggest Google Book's Maximum P […]
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Jupiter-18 wrote:

Looking for a motherboard with two AGP slots

My advice: take it slow, read a lot of magazines/articles from the era and research a lot.
(I'd suggest Google Book's Maximum PC and PC Magz archives, Computer Gaming World archive, and tomshardware)

Then please let me know if you ever find the above! 😀

PS: I am aware why there are two AGPs on this board 😁

but only ONE works at a time. If i recall properly, that is one of those Frankenstein boards that can take 2 totally different cpu's. The orange cpu slot will disable the right agp slot and turn on the left.

Also, fuck Boulder. Place is full of those damned hippies and hipsters.

I think I will archive this thread and start a new one focused on building a Slot 1 CAD workstation. Thanks for all the help so far, I just want to specify my needs a bit more!

JACKPOT!!!

One of those ASRock Frankenstein Edition boards... 😁 Ooops luckybob you stole my sentence!

Now if only you could fit those Obsidian2 AGP cards the right way. 🤣

luckybob wrote:

but only ONE works at a time. If i recall properly, that is one of those Frankenstein boards that can take 2 totally different cpu's. The orange cpu slot will disable the right agp slot and turn on the left.

Also, fuck Boulder. Place is full of those damned hippies and hipsters.

Well I haven't been there the last 6 years! I wonder how much has changed.

Here's a dual AGP board for you. Unfortunately, it went unreleased:
This one time at a PC convention, Micron demonstrated a motherboard chipset that permitted dual AGP ports: Micron SamuraiDDR. IIRC the board with that particular featureset was called Micron Madison.
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/20 … 131/pform04.htm
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tpu … -3#post-1764896

Wow! If only...

Stiletto wrote:

Here's a dual AGP board for you. Unfortunately, it went unreleased: This one time at a PC convention, Micron demonstrated a moth […]
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Here's a dual AGP board for you. Unfortunately, it went unreleased:
This one time at a PC convention, Micron demonstrated a motherboard chipset that permitted dual AGP ports: Micron SamuraiDDR. IIRC the board with that particular featureset was called Micron Madison.
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/20 … 131/pform04.htm
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tpu … -3#post-1764896

Alright, this one I've never known before. 😊

However, from what I understand that design (the Madison dual slot 2 one) would have used two North Bridge chipsets, which would separate the two AGP (i.e. not in the same.. uh, bus -- I know, "AGP is not a bus, AGP is not a bus, AGP is not a bus..."). I wonder what the intended use cases were.

archsan wrote:

However, from what I understand that design (the Madison dual slot 2 one) would have used two North Bridge chipsets, which would separate the two AGP (i.e. not in the same.. uh, bus -- I know, "AGP is not a bus, AGP is not a bus, AGP is not a bus..."). I wonder what the intended use cases were.

my guess was "multi-monitor without compromising by reverting to PCI" but IDK for sure. Someday I'd like the real story on it. 😀

The best Slot 1 motherboard (and PC) I ever owned was a Dell Optiplex something or other back in the late 90's. They were huge dual slot 1 server beasts (I had 3 of them) and each came equipped with dual 550Mhz Pentium III's (upgradable, but I never did or needed to), 512MB SD RAM, an AGP slot and around 5 PCI slots. The motherboards were huge and full of features. They had onboard SCSI controllers and each machine I had came with two Quantum Fireball 8GB SCSI drives, as well as a floppy drive and plenty of space for more hard disks. There was also a separate SCSI card in one of the PCI slots for extra drives and the onboard sound was some 32-bit Crystal Audio which sounded really nice, even compared to my Aureal Vortex in my main gaming rig.

The case opened out sideways like the door of a Ferrari and getting to the board and hardware was a piece of cake. They weighed a ton but were practically silent when running. Each machine I got had a Diamond Viper 770 (which I think was a TNT2 Ultra but I was never sure). I ended up giving one to my brother so he could make the jump to PC gaming, sold one to a guy in the local classifieds and kept one for well over a year. I ran it under Windows 2000 and threw a couple of VooDoo 2's in there for SLI Glide games.

I cannot remember the model number now, but I saw one (exactly the same but with a single 733Mhz Pentium III installed and a terminator card in the unoccupied second CPU slot) on eBay for £70. It was in perfect condition too. I made the guy an offer on it but he refused. This was only a year ago so they are still kicking about from time to time.

I'd advise going top end server grade Dell systems of that era. Back then Dell made some awesome beasts with their custom motherboards and top build quality. Search around on eBay and see what you can find. I had a similar full tower Dell server machine around that time, a Pentium 2 400Mhz system (only one CPU that time, I didn't add a second because I never needed to use the system) which weighed a ton but it was also a superbly made machine. Solid steel case ... I remember carrying it home from the office building around 2 miles from my house. I still feel the pain. Don't think I could do that now! I am old and weak.

Thought I was relatively happy with my computer collection, sigh
Although don't think I've enjoyed a derailed topic so much, even with the increased jealousy 🤣

There are 2 things on Slot 1 that really matters (and visuals as well) the OC capabilities, and the build quality.

ASUS P3B-F is easy the winner, as it have great build quality japan only capacitors rubycon mostly, and the OC is the best out there.
After that is ABIT BE6 or BE6-II or BE6-II V2,they can OC without problem, but only problem is the crap build quality mostly the capacitors, once replaced will be ready to go.
Gigabyte BX2000+ is really nice board, that blue color can easy beat both P3B-F and BE6-II V2 and the Dual BIOS as well, but the OC is not so good, as always from Gigabyte can be expected as they are very bad at OC. Also the build quality of Gigabyte seems way above the ABIT one, and under ASUS, bcuz not all capacitors on the BX2000+ are japan, but the important close to the processor are.

Having already dealt with bad caps on a DFI Lanparty nf3 250gb, i would not be opposed to swapping some caps to get a good board. Thank you for the tips!

The hell this is best Slot 1 mobo thread not NF3 and LanParty but whatever..

I have NF4 LanParty Ultra-D and that thing have metal caps, and rest caps are Nichicon, as the ones that blow up are the brown Chemicon KZG caps, that are weak when it comes to durability on hot places..

I was simply making the point that i'm not opposed to replacing caps. I know that this is a Slot 1 thread. After all, I started it 😀
(Nice board by the way!)

Yeah now i did look all the threads best that board, or other board was from you interesting..
Yeah LanParty with that crazy colors and black PCB really nice, also the UV on the slots is even better with UV light on them...
LanParty was the real deal back in that days, but not anymore, today DFI is making industrial products only shame, the main engineer Oscar Wu was first in ABIT, he was responsible for all great boards till ABIT NF7/ NF7 V2, later on he did move to DFI and created the LanParty series..

How about for CPUs?
OC Celeron vs PIII?