nforce4max wrote:

Socket 7 hands down as you get a wider range of support and can emulate slower systems so you can enjoy dos games at more appropriate speeds. Slot 1 is more of a pure 9x and xp platform for late 90s and early 2000s games.

Thanks! ended up getting the below. Its supposed to be a clone of the pcchips m577 super socket 7.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181735304307]

now to try and find replacement usb and audio ports for the headers.

oerk wrote:

Are we talking Socket 7 or Super Socket 7?
If Socket 7, I'm voting for the Asus P55T2P4.

t2p4 is a cult board for me aswell, except for the problematic rtc component, thats why i am going after the atx version of xp55t2p4 which uses coin cells.

There are other games than Doom 😵 Take Test Drive 3 or Wing Commander for example... a 486SX25 is too fast for those.

maybe so but, you can easily slow it down even further with turbo buttom or undocumented clock jumpers, which usually provides 8 or 16 mhz in combination with disabled onboard cache and slow dram timing.

goodtofufriday wrote:

Thanks! ended up getting the below. Its supposed to be a clone of the pcchips m577 super socket 7. […]
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nforce4max wrote:

Socket 7 hands down as you get a wider range of support and can emulate slower systems so you can enjoy dos games at more appropriate speeds. Slot 1 is more of a pure 9x and xp platform for late 90s and early 2000s games.

Thanks! ended up getting the below. Its supposed to be a clone of the pcchips m577 super socket 7.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181735304307]

now to try and find replacement usb and audio ports for the headers.

That's a lot of money for a PCChips board!

noshutdown wrote:

t2p4 is a cult board for me aswell, except for the problematic rtc component, thats why i am going after the atx version of xp55t2p4 which uses coin cells.

The coin cell mod for the RTC is quite easy to do 😀

oerk wrote:

goodtofufriday wrote:

Thanks! ended up getting the below. Its supposed to be a clone of the pcchips m577 super socket 7.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181735304307]

now to try and find replacement usb and audio ports for the headers.

That's a lot of money for a PCChips board!

I got him down to 45. Abd some old reviews andantech and a russian site said it was pretty good.
But ueah i dont really know the value of the equipmemt for this era. Now with video games i could tell ya the average price for any game aha.

Going to get me a k6-3+ now

gdjacobs wrote:

brostenen wrote:

I have a P-133 on a FIC PA-2013, TNT2-M64-PCI, 32mb Ram. Disabling cache makes a nice 386/486.
Don't know what to do with it, other than I did the build for the fun of it.
I don't have enough antistatic bags, so I had to put the hardware into a case. Hence the build.

Feel free to share that board with me... 😎

I can post pic's....
The machine will be resting on the shelf, untill the time comes, when my 486's are both dead.

oerk wrote:

The coin cell mod for the RTC is quite easy to do 😀

Why mess around with an RTC mod?

I go for a complete RTC replacement, it's not that hard to do.
Get some of that cobber desoldering wig, the threaded type on a roll.
Place it on top of the solderspot that you wish to remove tin from.
Place a hot solderiron on top and wiggle one millimeter to each side.
It will suck up the old soldertin. From here its just a matter of
installing a socket, insert a new battery and secure with a zip tie.
Or cable strip, as it is known in other places.

Because coin cells are a lot easier to come by - and cheaper.

oerk wrote:

Because coin cells are a lot easier to come by - and cheaper.

Cheaper, yes... Not that much, unless you think that 2 to 8 dollars for an essential part is expensive.
I don't think that something like 5 dollars with free shipping is that bad.

And they are probably one of the easiest part to come by. Just get one on eBay.
Can't be that difficult.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=motherbo … attery&_sacat=0

If you go for a P2 or P3 slot 1, maybe look for a Dell Optiplex GX1 that has an interesting slowdown utilty for dos. Just use keys Ctrl-Alt-\ or Ctrl-Alt-# and you adjust speed om the fly. I have one but its a slim desktop without an AGP slot. Dont know if the tower models had AGP.

oerk wrote:

Yes, certainly. Anything above a DX4/100 will do this. I'm personally satisfied with Doom on a DX2/66 w/ ISA graphics. […]
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goodtofufriday wrote:

But I'd like to go up to being able to play doom extremely well. is a 200mhz mmx enough for this?

Yes, certainly. Anything above a DX4/100 will do this. I'm personally satisfied with Doom on a DX2/66 w/ ISA graphics.

goodtofufriday wrote:

I'm alrady making a 98/XP machine (which is where my PC knowhow starts) so the machine in question doesnt really need to venture in the 98 era of gaming.

Socket 7 would be perfect then.

goodtofufriday wrote:

What would be the process to slow down a pentium 2/3 for 486 gaming?

Lowering FSB, lowering multiplier if possible, disabling caches. Though I've often heard that a P2 with disabled cache will be TOO slow.

it is go look at reviews of the Celeron 266 and 300, not the 300A but the oriignal. A celeron 300 compared to a Pentium 100 🤣

candle_86 wrote:

it is go look at reviews of the Celeron 266 and 300, not the 300A but the oriignal. A celeron 300 compared to a Pentium 100 🤣

thats obviously exaggerated, the celeron without l2 cache is "only" 30-40% slower than the pentium2, and you need a very slow mainboard(sis620 for example) to really slow it down, or it would be saved by bx's superb memory performance at least to some degree.