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First post, by Apples555

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I have installed my CT2260 Sound Blaster 16 card into my Windows 98 machine. It is exactly what I wanted and sounds great. However, it is nonPnP and I am having a lot of trouble setting it up. This is the first nonPnP device I have ever set up.

I got the drivers from Creative, and they have their own resource settings. This is what I used and sound works fine. However, certain applications generate random page faults and memory errors with these resource settings. Croc for example creates an endless loop of page faults that requires a hard shutdown upon exit.

Setting the card to automatic resources removes the errors, but sound no longer works. Everything else is set on automatic. How do I resolve this situation? I have tried searching everywhere I can, but I could not find any relevant information.

Thank you very much.

Reply 1 of 10, by Apples555

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It's hopeless, even when Windows detects the card by itself and sets resources automatically, sound works, but Croc enters the loop of page faults upon exit. Doesn't happen with onboard audio.

Removing the card's driver removes the errors. Curiously, just disabling it doesn't. I'm using the latest drivers from Creative (12-10-1997). Where are these page faults coming from?

Reply 2 of 10, by Jorpho

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Have you tried disabling onboard audio in your BIOS? Onboard audio in the olden days was often problematic. You should also try disabling your serial and parallel ports in your BIOS; that ought to free up some resources.

Reply 3 of 10, by Apples555

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Thank you for the suggestion. I've already tried disabling the COM and parallel ports in device manager. Onboard video and audio are disabled. I also tried many different resource combinations for the SB, and Windows says all of them have no conflicts. The only thing constant is that whenever the card is working, Croc will produce a page fault in kernel32.dll upon exit. The error is a loop, and must be hard shutdown. Other random programs also cause page faults. Everything goes away when the driver is removed.

This is on an early '97 computer with a 233 MMX. Could the card be bad? The sound works perfectly.

Reply 4 of 10, by Sammy

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how do you set irq dma etc.. on the card?

Via Jumpers?

I always used A220 Irq5 Low-Dma1 and High-Dma5

And in Bios look for PNP Settings

Set irq5 and dma1 and dma5 to:
Resources controlled by ISA.
or to LEGACY.

Reply 5 of 10, by brostenen

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Looking at the picture: http://fm801.kewl.org/assets/files/images/har … tive-ct2260.jpg
You have a card that is not a true PNP, though not a true non-PNP eighter.
The some of the resources are controlled by jumpers, the IRQ and DMA is not.
They will be set up in both of the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.bat files.

I have a little checklist for you:

- Set the BIOS to PNP
- Set controll resources by "MANUAL" and let IRQ5+7, DMA1+5 be controlled by ISA. The rest controlled by PCI.
- Boot into Windows or Dos (depending of you'r choice of OS)
- Install the drivers from CTCMSYS and SBBASIC install disk or the SB-Collection found on Vogons driver library.

This way it will be installed, and if not working, the card or motherboard might be damaged.

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Reply 6 of 10, by Jorpho

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Apples555 wrote:

I've already tried disabling the COM and parallel ports in device manager.

But have you tried disabling them in the BIOS? I would expect that it might make a difference.

I might also suggest trying to use your SB card in a different ISA slot.

Reply 7 of 10, by brostenen

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True... Disable stuff in BIOS.

And I found this little page, regarding jumpers on SB cards.

http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=3039

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Reply 8 of 10, by Apples555

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I have a little checklist for you:

I went through this one by one.

- Set the BIOS to PNP

Already done.

- Set controll resources by "MANUAL" and let IRQ5+7, DMA1+5 be controlled by ISA. The rest controlled by PCI.

Tried this.

- Boot into Windows or Dos (depending of you'r choice of OS)
- Install the drivers from CTCMSYS and SBBASIC install disk or the SB-Collection found on Vogons driver library.

Done and tried.

The page faults kept happening. I also tried disabling various ports in BIOS and reserving an IRQ (5) for legacy ISA in BIOS. No effect.

Eventually, I realized I was in a classic Win9x driver labyrinth and simply reinstalled everything from scratch. Apart from a few typical hang-ups (again with the SB), everything works great now. I'm using the 98 driver supplied by Microsoft. The Sound Blaster works great, as does everything else. No problems.

I still wonder what was causing the faults.

For future reference, I don't think the CT2260 uses jumpers to set up anything except amplification (speakers or headphones) according to this.

Reply 9 of 10, by stamasd

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Apples555 wrote:

For future reference, I don't think the CT2260 uses jumpers to set up anything except amplification (speakers or headphones) according to this.

That article deals only with how to set the audio output on the cards. The 2260 does have jumpers to set I/O address, IRQ and DMA. Look at the Creative article and your card.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 10 of 10, by brostenen

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Good to hear that it was simply an software error and nothing else. 😀

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