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First post, by squareguy

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Well I'm kinda fed up with some of the Super Socket 7 stuff for now so, how about a standard Socket 7...

I dug through a lot of stuff and found this. A bit of Googling and I think it is a Shuttle Hot 569 ver. 1.2 TX motherboard.

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What do you think? Pentium 233MMX, 64MB RAM, some video card(s), some sound card(s) and play some games!

I never built an AT box before so it should be fun.

Last edited by squareguy on 2016-10-25, 18:54. Edited 1 time in total.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 1 of 13, by 386SX

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Maybe it could support the K6-2 FSB-66mhz version of the 300 model with a recent bios? (but I'm not sure it would be faster that the Pentium 233 MMX I think). I would use a Mystique 220 PCI and a single Voodoo2, an AWE64 and all the ram you can, with that.

Reply 2 of 13, by brostenen

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Out of curiosity. What kind of software do you aim for?

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 3 of 13, by squareguy

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Installed a Pentium 233MMX CPU and set jumpers

Found two new Micron 32MB DIMMs! Yay 64MB RAM installed done. (You'd be surprised at how much stuff I have in my shop, 🤣)

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Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 4 of 13, by squareguy

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Brostenen,

Everything I can up to say Voodoo1 graphics. Maybe up to some DirectX 6 stuff.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 5 of 13, by squareguy

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Installed S3 Virge\GX 4MB video card

It Lives!

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Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 6 of 13, by squareguy

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Found a BIOS update and installed. Can now support 128GB hard drives.

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Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 7 of 13, by melbar

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Nice board, your shuttle HOT 569!!! It has the 430TX chip.
I have a shuttle HOT 597 (ATX standard, VIA MVP3).

According to this test, it has a max. FSB of 83MHz.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/96

I thought that a super-socket 7 board has 100MHz capability. That means that this board with it's max. 83MHz is related to the standard socket 7, or not?!

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Reply 8 of 13, by squareguy

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Melbar,

It is standard Socket 7. I was trying to say that I'm currently fed up with Super Socket 7 and so, I am building a standard Socket 7.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 9 of 13, by melbar

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Ah, Ok, sorry, have not understand your first post.... was reading too fast 😊

I'm also planning a standard socket7 beside my super-socket system. But instead of your board with a 430TX chip, it has the first Triton 430FX chipset.
It's has only single voltage for the CPU, so i can't install any MMX pentium...

#1 K6-2/500, #2 Athlon1200, #3 Celeron1000A, #4 A64-3700, #5 P4HT-3200, #6 P4-2800, #7 Am486DX2-66

Reply 10 of 13, by kanecvr

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melbar wrote:
Nice board, your shuttle HOT 569!!! It has the 430TX chip. I have a shuttle HOT 597 (ATX standard, VIA MVP3). […]
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Nice board, your shuttle HOT 569!!! It has the 430TX chip.
I have a shuttle HOT 597 (ATX standard, VIA MVP3).

According to this test, it has a max. FSB of 83MHz.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/96

I thought that a super-socket 7 board has 100MHz capability. That means that this board with it's max. 83MHz is related to the standard socket 7, or not?!

All MVP3 boards support 100MHz FSB, no exception. You just need to find the correct jumper settings.

Reply 11 of 13, by squareguy

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I found a case I like that I had laying around and I will try to get it cleaned up soon. It is missing the metal plate that the power switch attaches to but I found one (included AT switch, I have an ATX switch on hand) on eBay for less than $8.00 with free shipping, I didn't feel like fabricating one. The turbo button will be used for JP4 on the motherboard which will change the CPU between 133 and 233 MHz (just have to reboot for change to take effect). I will have to figure out the front LED display since all the wires and jumpers were removed.

Quake shareware 1.06, 320x240, Timedemo 1
Dell/STB Nitro 3D 1.3 Virge/GX 4MB
no sound, Windows 98 DOS Terminal

Numbers I recall, probably not 100% accurate but within 1 FPS anyways

133-MHz: 37.8 FPS
233-MHz: 51.7 FPS

About a 30% difference that might be helpful at some higher resolutions. I will load full version of Quake and try 400x300 and 512x384 (really curious to see how the 1024x768 4:3 15" LCD looks with that one).

I have not 'tuned' any values at all in the BIOS yet.

An interesting side note. I have not had any luck getting DMA to stay enabled on the hard drive. I check the box, reboot Windows, and then it is unchecked again. The CD-ROM stays checked and I have loaded Intel chipset drivers. It could be that particular hard drive, which is UDMA 5 capable, or something else. Have not had a lot of time to investigate just mentioning in case someone knows of an easy fix that I am overlooking. It was loaded with Windows 98 SE with APM and not ACPI because of default BIOS settings.

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE

Reply 12 of 13, by brostenen

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squareguy wrote:

Brostenen,

Everything I can up to say Voodoo1 graphics. Maybe up to some DirectX 6 stuff.

Cool....
Makes a good late-era dos and early era-win95 gaming build.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brostenen

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Reply 13 of 13, by squareguy

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Why oh why.... all my plans, I keep getting sidetracked.

Intel / Gateway Lawman Motherboard. Intel 430TX chipset, don't know much else at the moment.

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Oh no! They're Twins!

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Both boards built late 1997

Gateway 2000 Case and 200-Watt PSU
Intel SE440BX-2 Motherboard
Intel Pentium III 450 CPU
Micron 384MB SDRAM (3x128)
Compaq Voodoo3 3500 TV Graphics Card
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
Western Digital 7200-RPM, 8MB-Cache, 160GB Hard Drive
Windows 98 SE