Don't use Liquid Pro or ultra. If you do this use something like liquid copper or mx7. Liquid ultra and pro will eat the ihs.

Anyway your better off with a better heat sink. Like a socket A heatsink

any specific source where thisis documented? quite frankly till now i wouldve thought the proc dead after this kind of "upgrade"

It's called cpu deliding or cpu delid.
It's very common with some CPUs for overclocking and benchmarking.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-d … dded-club-guide

Not really worth it on a k6 if you ask me. We have socket A heatsinks nowadays and much better tims. No point in deliding one unless if your were going for a world record over clock. Even then there is tec chillers

I am stuck on 115x5.5 on my K6
So I am looking at my options to get it faster 😀
Already have Athlon sink on. But is not copper

I delided my K6-2+ 450 back in the day and pushed it to 612mhz back in 2002

My k6-3+ is delided, bought it that way. It can do 6x100 and i didn't try it any further. But i don't think it will go any higher than a ''normal'' one.
As has been said: we have great coolers now and these are mobiles so heat will not be a big problem.

Heat is not the limiting factor for OC of any K6... except maybe the 250nm K6-III. Ane even then is the ~50 MHz gain worth the risk of killing perfectly good CPU? I don't think so.

Don't delid. It's a stupid idea, they put them on for a reason, so you can't chip the die.

havli wrote:

Heat is not the limiting factor for OC of any K6... except maybe the 250nm K6-III. Ane even then is the ~50 MHz gain worth the risk of killing perfectly good CPU? I don't think so.

License to this guy. He knows his stuff. Your problem is probably voltage, ram chipset or a problem with a PCI card if you have a Anthon heat sink on the cpu.

Go for liquid cooling.

With liquid nitrogen if possible. 😁

Does anyone remember those videos where they plunged an entire system (well apart from the PSU and drives) in a box filled with liquid nitrogen, and the crazy overclocks they got? The only problem is that it will destroy the system eventually.

stamasd wrote:

Go for liquid cooling.

With liquid nitrogen if possible. 😁

Does anyone remember those videos where they plunged an entire system (well apart from the PSU and drives) in a box filled with liquid nitrogen, and the crazy overclocks they got? The only problem is that it will destroy the system eventually.

Eventually if you do that, the components get too cold to even boot anymore.

The slightly more reasonable, but still bat crap crazy idea is to dunk an entire system into Mineral oil.

man I should do that with a 486-DX4-100/120 build, get a tank, and just have the mineral oil passively cool it all. Maybe add a fan to circulate the oil.

i have never seen any actual measurements showing better cooling in those circumstances; i believe the oil still has to be moved quickly in order to help the cooling process; imho just for shows;

mrau wrote:

i have never seen any actual measurements showing better cooling in those circumstances; i believe the oil still has to be moved quickly in order to help the cooling process; imho just for shows;

Not true. Mineral Oil can take heat away from a surface better than air. It's a common coolant for lots of stuff.

that s not even an answer to what i said; also air is most often used as coolant, hence it must be an even better coolant than mineral oil;

mrau wrote:

that s not even an answer to what i said; also air is most often used as coolant, hence it must be an even better coolant than mineral oil;

And Toyota is the most used car there for its the best car... 🤣
Air is the most used method for cooling as it cheap, easy and gets the job done.

Oil submerging can be better then air but can also get hotter in the long run. It's better for when you use the system for shot time frames. Longer run times and your need a heat exchanger. Old submerging also costs a lot and mucks up your pars and as such is not really used much.

LN2 and DICE can hit sub zero and then some, Dice is around -50c. Tec chillers can get around -10c and liquid is around 45-50c full load with a overclocked 120w cpu.
Not sure about the temps reached with LN2 as I never used it before.

stamasd wrote:

Does anyone remember those videos where they plunged an entire system (well apart from the PSU and drives) in a box filled with liquid nitrogen, and the crazy overclocks they got? The only problem is that it will destroy the system eventually.

typically you don't plunge a system In LN2 but fill a pot/pipe with it that's attached to a cpu/gpu.

Jade Falcon wrote:

stamasd wrote:

Does anyone remember those videos where they plunged an entire system (well apart from the PSU and drives) in a box filled with liquid nitrogen, and the crazy overclocks they got? The only problem is that it will destroy the system eventually.

typically you don't plunge a system In LN2 but fill a pot/pipe with it that's attached to a cpu/gpu.

Except you run into problems with condensation/frost at the thermal interface and around it if you do so. By submerging the whole motherboard in LN2 you avoid water condensing and potentially shorting adjacent traces. It's a problem with any cooling system that decreases the temperature below the dew point of the surrounding air.

And no, don't even think of covering the whole motherboard in putty. 😵

Jade Falcon wrote:

mrau wrote:

that s not even an answer to what i said; also air is most often used as coolant, hence it must be an even better coolant than mineral oil;

And Toyota is the most used car there for its the best car... 🤣
Air is the most used method for cooling as it cheap, easy and gets the job done.

i would kindly ask that you first understand the conversation and then comment;

havli wrote:

Heat is not the limiting factor for OC of any K6... except maybe the 250nm K6-III. Ane even then is the ~50 MHz gain worth the risk of killing perfectly good CPU? I don't think so.

I absolutely agree with this...thanks to personal experience 😒

Ampera wrote:

stamasd wrote:

Go for liquid cooling.

With liquid nitrogen if possible. 😁

Does anyone remember those videos where they plunged an entire system (well apart from the PSU and drives) in a box filled with liquid nitrogen, and the crazy overclocks they got? The only problem is that it will destroy the system eventually.

Eventually if you do that, the components get too cold to even boot anymore.

In fact it may end up so cold that less resistant materials may shatter in a million pieces with only a little tap. Including any body parts in the way of a substantial leak.