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First post, by probnot

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I'm putting together a new Win98 machine with some of the hardware from my last haul, but I noticed the PIII-500 was running with only passive cooling. Anyone know how hot these get and if I can could just cool it with case airflow?

New build specs:

Case Generic Black ATX Case, with a (now defunct) local PC store's badge (I dub this case "BlackMind")
CPU PIII-500Mhz Slot1
Mobo Asus P2B-D Motherboard
RAM 512MB (4x128mb) PC100
HDD WD 80GB IDE
ODD Pioneer DVD-RW IDE
Floppy Generic Black 3.5"

Video Rage Fury Pro 128 32MB (AGP) -- stolen from the PII-350 for now
Sound(Windows) Diamond Monster Sound MX300 A3D
Sound(DOS) Creative AWE64 CT4520 ISA
NIC 3Com Fast Etherlink XL (10/100)
Other OPTi Firelink USB 2.0

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Reply 1 of 16, by clueless1

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I've got an HP Vectra VL with a P3-450 fanless and it seems perfectly fine without a fan. The heatsink doesn't get overly hot to the touch, and the case is designed with a an exhaust blower to suck the heat from the heatsink out the back of the case.

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Reply 4 of 16, by probnot

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happycube wrote:

Make sure it's a 500E (Coppermine) - that'll run a lot cooler.

I checked, it's a Katmai 😒

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And if you ever put on anything but 98 on there, get another one!

Definitely Win98...and yeah, I was thinking about the getting another one for dual, but its pointless for what I'm running on this.

Reply 5 of 16, by Deksor

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I've got a fanless pentium 2 400 which runs nice. I even overclocked it to 448MHz and I've got absolutely no problems. The psu blows some air on it so I think it helps quite a bit

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Reply 8 of 16, by Errius

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I have a machine with a PIII 550 MHz Katmai with passive cooling. Worse, the motherboard doesn't have a CPU fan connector. The original case I took it from had a complicated ducted cooling system which couldn't be tranferred to the new case. I just have a powerful case fan blowing air onto it. Hopefully that will be enough to prevent overheating.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/04/28/550mh … as_overheating/

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Reply 12 of 16, by chinny22

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Yeh I would just make sure the rear fan is good, maybe a front one blowing cool air towards the CPU as well.

Both my duel Katmai 600 system is passive.
The Prolient 1600 documentation said if upgrading to 500Mhz or more a termal upgrade kit was required, as far as I could tell it was some ducting and a better fan. I simply added 2 80MM fans and works fine

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My Asus based system has fans everywhere! but also has a lot of other components generating heat (v2 sli, SCSI, soundcards)
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Neither have heat problems

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Win2000 actually makes a real good Win9x gaming rig, and then you can use that 2nd CPU slot just begging to be populated 😉
(I'll fully admit it makes no real world difference, but it gets bonus cool points)

Reply 13 of 16, by TELVM

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^ Nice cooling solution up there with the Noctuas. Much better to enfilade the Slot 1's than to blow transversely on them as usual.

Provided enough case ventilation, even a Slot 1 Coppermine 733 can (and has) run OK with an (appropiately sized) passive heatsink.

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Let the air flow!

Reply 15 of 16, by probnot

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Well, so far it's been fine heat, even under decent load. And having only 2 fans (plus a newer IDE drive), it's nice and quiet!

When spring rolls around, I'll probably beef up the cooling... I do plan to replace the 80mm fan with 120mm (though it is a really good fan and I don't have any good 120's at the moment) and add another fan on the front.

Reply 16 of 16, by gerwin

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If the motherboard supports it, one could install a socket 370 Pentium III coppermine on a slotket, with a net speed below 550MHz or something (take a 133MHz FSB one). Then set the Slotket to a Voltage request of 1.3 --> Same performance as these 2.0V Katmais at less then half the heat dissipation.

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