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Dual 5080 xeons, crazy insane or brilliant?

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Reply 20 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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nforce4max wrote:

GTX 295 does add a bit of class to a system especially the VHS style that I am a fan of, 480s are cheaper and easier to find plus they are still capable of running modern titles with reduced performance.

Odd, I can't seem to find very manny 480s for less then a 295 but there are definitely more of them out there. If I do get a 295 is would be a co-op card. (Single pcb) as for the 4890. I had a few in the past, there not a bad card. I bet I could use two in crossfire with this board. I think they were like 180-200w cards or something.

Reply 21 of 68, by Rhuwyn

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It's Crazy, Insane, AND Brilliant. I've got a pair of Opteron 6174s that I am looking for a motherboard for. REALLY want a 24 Core Rig without going quad CPU but don't want to spend more then 100 bucks for a board.

Reply 22 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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I had a fail 6core Opteron setup. Not the best single core performance, but a nice system non the less.

Anyway I found a zotac 295 for 40$ And jump on it.

Reply 24 of 68, by Skyscraper

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The GTX 285 is also a really nice video card. Like the GTX 295 it's not DX11 but it does a god job with most games from 2003 - 2013.

I'm sure you will be happy with the GTX 295.

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Reply 25 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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luckybob wrote:

I had a supermicro opteron system. dual 2439's. It really did nice, and got the job done.

Thay are nice hardware. Fast and whatnot. If it were not for how much money I stood to make I'd still have my opteron setup. But I had less the 200$ in two complete systems and just had to sell.

Reply 26 of 68, by havli

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I have dual LGA 771 board (i5000P based Intel S5000PSL) and the performance is just terrible, especially gaming performance. It gets a little better when switching to Conroe, but Xeon 5080 really struggles on this board and pair of 5050's even more. Maybe your Asus board and i5000X chipset is faster... but I wouldnt expect much from it.

Anyway few performance figures:
Far Cry 1024x768 @ ultra, using GTX 285

C2D E6300 (2C/2T, 1.86 GHz) @ 975X = 92.6 fps
C2D E6660 (2C/2T, 2.4 GHz ) @ 975X = 119.2 fps
2x Xeon 5130 (4C/4T, 2 GHz) @ 5000P = 93.1 fps
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ 5000P = 63.1 fps
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ P35 = 77 fps
2x Xeon 5050 (4C/8T, 3 GHz) @ 5000P = 51.5 fps
Pentium D 945 (2C/2T, 3.4 GHz) @ 975X = 74.5 fps

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Reply 27 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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havli wrote:
I have dual LGA 771 board (i5000P based Intel S5000PSL) and the performance is just terrible, especially gaming performance. It […]
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I have dual LGA 771 board (i5000P based Intel S5000PSL) and the performance is just terrible, especially gaming performance. It gets a little better when switching to Conroe, but Xeon 5080 really struggles on this board and pair of 5050's even more. Maybe your Asus board and i5000X chipset is faster... but I wouldnt expect much from it.

Anyway few performance figures:
Far Cry 1024x768 @ ultra, using GTX 285

C2D E6300 (2C/2T, 1.86 GHz) @ 975X = 92.6 fps
C2D E6660 (2C/2T, 2.4 GHz ) @ 975X = 119.2 fps
2x Xeon 5130 (4C/4T, 2 GHz) @ 5000P = 93.1 fps
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ 5000P = 63.1 fps
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ P35 = 77 fps
2x Xeon 5050 (4C/8T, 3 GHz) @ 5000P = 51.5 fps
Pentium D 945 (2C/2T, 3.4 GHz) @ 975X = 74.5 fps

Interesting FPS. I think more then anything the problem with such CPU's is properly utilizing them. Given they're nothing more then 2 fast P4 CPU's on one chip you really need to use good multi threaded apps to reach their full potential. Still its neat to see how the chip set can make so much of a difference.

Reply 28 of 68, by havli

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Perhaps memory performance is the key. At least Aida64 results indicate that.

Memory read[MB/s]/write[MB/s]/latency[ns]:
C2D E6300 (2C/2T, 1.86 GHz) @ 975X = 7610 / 4879 / 77.4
C2D E6660 (2C/2T, 2.4 GHz ) @ 975X = 7785 / 4859 / 76.2
2x Xeon 5130 (4C/4T, 2 GHz) @ 5000P = 6726 / 5382 / 115.8
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ 5000P = 4274 / 3436 / 127.1
Xeon 5080 (2C/4T, 3.73 GHz) @ P35 = 8043 / 5686 / 84.4
2x Xeon 5050 (4C/8T, 3 GHz) @ 5000P = 3565 / 3490 / 161.9
Pentium D 945 (2C/2T, 3.4 GHz) @ 975X = 6309 / 4281 / 80.7

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Reply 29 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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Very well could be. There is a defiant difference with Registered/buffered ECC ram and run of the mill ram.
the board comes with 667mhz fully buffered ddr2 with 5-5-5-11 timings. I'll get ram with better timings if I can find any for a good price.

Reply 30 of 68, by brassicGamer

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This is a very interesting system - is that a pair of 16 lane PCIe slots I see there? The 5080s kick high-end Phenom II's asses all over the show, despite L3 cache.

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Reply 31 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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brassicGamer wrote:

This is a very interesting system - is that a pair of 16 lane PCIe slots I see there? The 5080s kick high-end Phenom II's asses all over the show, despite L3 cache.

I wish they were dual 16x. but its 16x/4x/8x
I bet there is enough lanes to go dual 16x, removed the onboard nic/sound and what not along with the 8x slot.

Anyway the 955 would run circles around a 5080.The 5080 is just two P4's on one chip. So its like having 2 P4 CPUs in one system but with slower ram.
But with 2 and a well made multi threaded app its anyone's guess. The 955 is more in the core2quade range, like a q9650.

Reply 32 of 68, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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GTX295's normally run around 50 on ebay right now. Same for the 9800GX2.

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Reply 34 of 68, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Jade Falcon wrote:

Yeah, 50$ seems to be the going rate, but most cards I see are bfg's and evga. The zotac stood out, not many out there.

My 9800GX2 is an MSI. Personally, all those manufacturers are reliable, at least in my experience. I've never had any of there cards bite the dust on me.

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Reply 36 of 68, by feipoa

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Each of these CPUs output 175 watts, correct? That is 350 watt for the two. What percent of that goes into heat energy?

I run a dual-core (single CPU) AMD FX-60 (Opteron 190) at 2.8 GHz in my office 24/7. CPU-World mentions that it consumes "only" 110 watts. To me, 110 watts is a LOT, but nothing compared to the 350 watt monster you have setup. This 110 watts is enough to heat up the office 2.5 degrees centigrade, or about 4.5 F in winter with the door closed. Maybe you can heat your whole house with your 350 watt space heater!

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Reply 37 of 68, by luckybob

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I still want to see the end result.

I'm going to be replacing my old hot 604's for some LV 1366's. And recording the progress for youtube. It never ceases to amaze me how technology progresses. I'm testing the new mobo now, the cpu fans run silent.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 38 of 68, by Jade Falcon

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We have a dual 1366 low voltage server at work, it's our domain/file/email server. It's ok, ram could be faster and more plentiful. It only has 12gb. But it dose run very cool.

As for heat, the 295 is a 285w card if I recall right. And my old 604 setup heated up my counter room about 5-10f at an idle. Oh an my crt pulls I think 175w or something like that.

Reply 39 of 68, by mrau

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Jade Falcon wrote:

We have a dual 1366 low voltage server at work, it's our domain/file/email server. It's ok, ram could be faster and more plentiful. It only has 12gb. But it dose run very cool.

As for heat, the 295 is a 285w card if I recall right. And my old 604 setup heated up my counter room about 5-10f at an idle. Oh an my crt pulls I think 175w or something like that.

when i read stuff like this i try to imagine how many hamsters on a wheel would be required to power this :>