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First post, by brostenen

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I have seen someone on the internet, using acetone, when restoring cracked plastic on vintage/retro gear.
Has anyone here tried that and is there any tips on what to do and what not to do?

What I could get out of it, was to gently moisten the edges and then holding it together.
Then what about the visible crack left behind were the edges are fused together?
Do people use baking soda/water, sandpaper or something else?

This is out of pure curiosity that I ask here in the forum. This technique could be useful in the future.

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Reply 1 of 5, by gdjacobs

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Ketones (acetone is one) are commonly used as model cement. As far as plastic welding, that's often done via pressure or friction.

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Reply 2 of 5, by Koltoroc

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I'm not familiar with using it to restore cases, but using solvents to chemically "weld" plastics is a common practice. It is the same process used to build plastic model kits.

Basically you need to figure out what type of plastic is used and then find a solvent that works for that particular plastic without causing too much damage. Not all plastics will work well with all solvents. I am not overly familiar with acetone for this particular purpose, the Plastic "glue" I use for model building and other primarily polystyrene and ABS Plastics is from MEK (Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone, or Butanone).

The way it works is, that the solvent is dissolving the surface of the plastic where its applied until the solvent evaporates. While the plastic is slightly dissolved you press the two pieces together so when it solidifies the two pieces become bonded. It is not so much gluing as chemically welding the pieces together.

To get the best results you have to apply enough solvent that the surface gets a goo like and sticky texture before you press the pieces together to get a better bond. After pressing them together fixate the pieces for some time until it solidifies. Make sure the pieces wont shift. It is not an immediate bond like with superglue and you can't simply clean the glue off and start over.

Usually you will get some plastic squeezed out between the two pieces that you will have to clean off. That is actually the material the "glue" dissolved and not the "glue" itself. To do that use sharp knives, files or sand paper, whatever you need to get the surface texture you want.

The Problem is that not all plastics react the same with any solvent. To see if it will work test the solvent either on sample pieces or apply a small amount to a spot that is not normally visible to see if it will work properly.
If you have never done any of this, it is best to play around with some disposable plastic bits to get a feel for the process.

Also, it should be self explanatory but just in case, the solvents are EXTREMELY flammable, and the fumes are not exactly healthy either. So, keep away from flames and heat sources and do it in well ventilated area. technically I think you are supposed to use gloves, but I know nobody who does that in hobby applications.

Reply 3 of 5, by brostenen

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Thanks. But yeah... I do however know how to build plastic scale models. Painting is what I am bad at though. So I know some of this at least. I used to build modelkits from 7'th grade to my early 20's. I was more after some personal in dept tales on how people have fixed their cracked AT case faceplate, cracked Amiga500-case or anything like that. You know.. If a mistake was made, how it was corrected and why that mistake was made. The chemical reaction and how acetone reacts to plastic, is something I know all too well.

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Reply 4 of 5, by krivulak

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Tried to use pure acetone on ABS plastics, it looks good at first, but it welds just the outer shell so it is very brittle. (My expirence with 3D prints)

Gel Loctite works best for me.

Reply 5 of 5, by emosun

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I repair car plastic bumpers , interior trim , and motorcycle fairings by simply melting them back together along the crack from the reverse side using a soldering iron. you can then sand , bondo , and paint the affected area accordingly.