This is hell of a good controller I must say! Only thing I am missing though is vibrations... 🙁
I actually used it once on 98 machine and played Commander Keen with it. Just try it, the worst thing that can happen is it will not work. 😀

krivulak wrote:

This is hell of a good controller I must say! Only thing I am missing though is vibrations... 🙁
I actually used it once on 98 machine and played Commander Keen with it. Just try it, the worst thing that can happen is it will not work. 😀

F510 has the vibrations IIRC, but I was never big on rumble or Force Feedback in gamepads, they only feel right to me on wheels, and to an extent on joysticks.

I'll certainly try it, I hope it works. Would be interesting to play Descent and all those awesome 90s/2000s space sims with a controller instead of a joystick!

Hi,

don't know about the F310, but I tried the F710 (Wireless) and it didn't work. I am curious myself about the F310; if it indeed does work, I'd buy it for my own Win98 rig.

Does the Logitech Dual Action work on 98? Because the F310 in DirectInput mode is basically the Dual Action (even identifies as such).

I could try it myself as I have an F310, but unfortunately my Win98 SE machine is not in the same physical location as the gamepad... 🙁

appiah4,

That download page you linked isn't just a driver. That's the Logitech Gaming Software which allows you to program compatible gamepads and even some mice like the G300/G300s. I strongly advise that you DO NOT install that version under Win9x because it no longer supports it.

I too am a big fan of the F310. I really think it's the best all-around gamepad device for PCs, old and new. The DirectInput/XInput switch on the back is what makes it so good for such a wide array of applications. If you've only got room for one gamepad, the F310 is the one to get. However, it does have a couple of minor drawbacks: small-but-noticeable deadzones in the analog sticks, and a lack of the rumble feature. Some folks also bitch about the D-Pad, but I have no complaints with it. I mean, clearly the original NES/SNES and PS1/PSX/PS2 controllers had superior D-Pads, but the F310 works well enough and doesn't require an adapter to do it.

(I still prefer an original PS1/PSX DualShock with a Mayflash adapter for emulation purposes. The iBuffalo SNES knock-off controller is also very good. For pure emulation purposes, this one looks even better, but I haven't purchased one yet.)

If you choose to use the Logitech Gaming Software, you can also program the F310 with it. Personally, I prefer JoyToKey (final Win9x version here) for programming my input devices. However, I do use the Logitech Gaming Software along with a G300 mouse on a dedicated WinXP legacy gaming machine. Anyway, the last version of the Logitech Gaming software for Win9x, v4.60, is here:

http://support.logitech.com/en_au/article/813 … i00000069uh5AAA

It doesn't mention the F310 as a supported device, but as dr_st already mentioned, the F310 in DirectInput mode is recognized as a "Logitech Dual Action" by Windows. v4.60 of the Logitech Gaming Software does support the Dual Action gamepard, so I think it's worth trying out with very minimal risk to be had.

It may also be possible to get the F310 working in XInput mode under Win9x. See here for details:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/119841-xbox36 … iver-for-win98/

Please do let us all know how it works out.

The older Logitech Wingman Software may also be worth trying out if you hate the Logitech Gaming Software. The final two Win9x compatible versions are here:

v3.30
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/joystick/ws_330.txt
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/joystick/ws330enu.exe

v3.65
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/joystick/ws365enu.txt
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/joystick/ws365enu.exe

Note: Other language versions are also available at:
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/joystick/

Note: If you are one of the rare weirdos like myself who owns a Cyberman 2 controller, the Logitech Wingman Software seems to work better than the Logitech Gaming Software.

Normally, I would edit my previous reply, but I feel this is worth a new posting.

I've tested the F310 in DirectInput mode in Win98SE with Logitech Wingman Software v3.30 and v3.65. Both versions work without any problems.

However, I would recommend v3.30 of the Logitech Wingman Software. It feels leaner and lighter. The v3.65 variant of the software tries to force the Logitech "profiler" on you.

Thank you for this information. You saved me from having to pack my controller for the trip to test it. 😀

Thanks! So much appreciated!

KT7AGuy wrote:

If you choose to use the Logitech Gaming Software, you can also program the F310 with it. Personally, I prefer JoyToKey (final Win9x version here) for programming my input devices. However, I do use the Logitech Gaming Software along with a G300 mouse on a dedicated WinXP legacy gaming machine. Anyway, the last version of the Logitech Gaming software for Win9x, v4.60, is here:

http://support.logitech.com/en_au/article/813 … i00000069uh5AAA

I just registered to say that this is the only one that worked for me. Just threw together a little 98 retro machine and my F310 arrived today. The 2 Wingman files you suggested at the bottom of your post would not see the controller (3.30 and 3.65), but the Logitech gaming software 4.60 did. 98SE, PIII 933, Voodoo 5.

If you don't get the Logitech working try getting a Saitek P750. Works on my Win98 rig no problem!

DW74 wrote:

KT7AGuy wrote:

If you choose to use the Logitech Gaming Software, you can also program the F310 with it. Personally, I prefer JoyToKey (final Win9x version here) for programming my input devices. However, I do use the Logitech Gaming Software along with a G300 mouse on a dedicated WinXP legacy gaming machine. Anyway, the last version of the Logitech Gaming software for Win9x, v4.60, is here:

http://support.logitech.com/en_au/article/813 … i00000069uh5AAA

I just registered to say that this is the only one that worked for me. Just threw together a little 98 retro machine and my F310 arrived today. The 2 Wingman files you suggested at the bottom of your post would not see the controller (3.30 and 3.65), but the Logitech gaming software 4.60 did. 98SE, PIII 933, Voodoo 5.

This is strange, 3.30 sees the controller for me. Did you make sure you flipped the bottom side switch from Xinput to Directinput?

Hi everyone, sorry for the thread bump, I'm looking at creating a Win 98 PC at the moment, and looking at controller options. Thanks to this thread I found out the F310 works with 98 and I can still buy them today, but I also noticed the F710 is available too (with rumble support/wireless), and I wondered if anyone had any experience getting this to work with 98 too? Do these pads use the same drivers? Does the software allow calibration of the dead zones?

Thanks in advance 😀

Well, I bought one and tried it, sadly not, it does not work with Windows 98 😵

Sticks dead zone is horrible on those anyway.

I'm sorry for necroing this thread, but considering I was looking for this information just today might indicate that the info I've got is still and will be relevant for as long as people try to play retro games with modern peripherals 😉

Logitech F710 definitely works under Win98SE with all latest updates. All you need to do is to switch it to Direct Input mode (D and X switch at the back, X for Xinput mode). Windows 98 SE identifies it as RumblePad 2 (aah, my first quality pad back in the day) and works like a charm. Analog triggers work as digital buttons, so you don't lose any buttons in the process. Enjoying Shadow Man using that gamepad as we speak 😀

I tried it again, but the F710 (in Direct Input mode) shows up was Logitech Wireless F710, and windows cant find any drivers for it. I have the Logitech software (4.60 i think) installed, but cant seem to find any drivers for it.

That's strange; My F310 and F510 show as Dual Action / Rumblepad when in Direct Input mode. I guess I should try them on Win98 as well.

dr_st wrote:

That's strange; My F310 and F510 show as Dual Action / Rumblepad when in Direct Input mode. I guess I should try them on Win98 as well.

Same.

Just tested all my controllers in Windows 98, Me and 2000.

No surprises here; in DInput mode, F310 shows as "Dual Action" and F510 as "Rumblepad 2 USB"; they work with the standard USB Human Interface Device driver, no special software is necessary.

The latter is true about my Xeox controllers as well. Not sure why the the F710 should behave differently. Either BoozerDawg has made a mistake or his controller is somehow defective.