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First post, by GeorgeMan

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Hello fellow VOGONerS!

I have problem trying to get a Gravis Gamepad Pro (gameport edition) working in my Win98SE retro machine.

I attach it to the gameport of my Soundblaster Pro 2 (CT1600), that works good under Windows. I have set the jumpers to SB classic (IRQ7 etc) and disabled LPT port in BIOS.
Everything in control panel seems to work OK (OPL3 ok, no sound issues, no IRQ conflicts reported).

The drivers of the gamepad install just fine (I don't think they do any search that you have indeed the gamepad plugged in).
But then, it simply does not work. Neither in GrIP mode, nor in standard mode. I tried setting "keyboard key presses" emulation in its setup program, but nothing seems to work.

This particular gamepad works OK with an SB Live in another PC (and Creative drivers installed).

So, what to do? 😕 😕 I have not installed any SB drivers, just what installation picked up automatically.
Please help me! 😊

1. Athlon XP 3200+ | ASUS A7V600 | Radeon 9500 @ Pro | SB Audigy 2 ZS | 80GB IDE, 500GB SSD IDE2Sata, 2x1TB HDDs | Win 98SE, XP, Vista
2. Pentium MMX 266| Qdi Titanium IIIB | Hercules graphics & Amber monitor | 1 + 10GB HDDs | DOS 6.22, Win 3.1, 95C

Reply 1 of 8, by GeorgeMan

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Anyone please help? 😢

Should I install SB Pro2 drivers? But everything I find is floppies for DOS... But in the device manager there is a gameport showing up with no exclamation marks.

1. Athlon XP 3200+ | ASUS A7V600 | Radeon 9500 @ Pro | SB Audigy 2 ZS | 80GB IDE, 500GB SSD IDE2Sata, 2x1TB HDDs | Win 98SE, XP, Vista
2. Pentium MMX 266| Qdi Titanium IIIB | Hercules graphics & Amber monitor | 1 + 10GB HDDs | DOS 6.22, Win 3.1, 95C

Reply 2 of 8, by Jo22

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Do you have two sound cards installed into that particular machine ?
IMHO the normal Gavis Gamepad uses both joysticks/button pairs on the gameport.

Sorry, can't really help. I do neither own a SB Pro II, nor a Gravis Pro. 🙁
(Maybe it's a speed problem, though ? Early gameports had no speed-compensation.)

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Reply 3 of 8, by red_avatar

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From experience, sometimes the oddest errors occur when certain hardware is used in combination even if you do everything right but more often, it's a more global error that is at the root of the problem.

First thing to do in such cases, is to determine the source of the problem. Is the problem only caused by your Gravis or does it affect ALL gamepads/joysticks? In other words, do any other joysticks work on that same gameport?

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Reply 4 of 8, by GeorgeMan

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Thank you for your answers.

I don't have any other sound cards installed in that machine and I don't want to install any other. Maybe I should try one for test, but I think it'll be alright, as is in the other machine.

I also don't have another gameport gamepad, so I can't really test the functionality of the gameport. 🙁 The only thing that I can confirm is that when you refresh the status of the gamepad in the "Controllers" menu of windows 98SE, it shows an "OK" after a second or so. But I don't think it really tests anything there too.

Maybe I need drivers to be installed and the card doesn't like the win98se default ones? I'm really stuck here!

PS: In the configuration page of the gravis gamepad pro, it reports that it's either not connected or not functioning properly, even if the win98se status reports the aforementioned "OK".

1. Athlon XP 3200+ | ASUS A7V600 | Radeon 9500 @ Pro | SB Audigy 2 ZS | 80GB IDE, 500GB SSD IDE2Sata, 2x1TB HDDs | Win 98SE, XP, Vista
2. Pentium MMX 266| Qdi Titanium IIIB | Hercules graphics & Amber monitor | 1 + 10GB HDDs | DOS 6.22, Win 3.1, 95C

Reply 5 of 8, by LiquifiedBeef

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GeorgeMan wrote on 2017-08-02, 08:01:
Thank you for your answers. […]
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Thank you for your answers.

I don't have any other sound cards installed in that machine and I don't want to install any other. Maybe I should try one for test, but I think it'll be alright, as is in the other machine.

I also don't have another gameport gamepad, so I can't really test the functionality of the gameport. 🙁 The only thing that I can confirm is that when you refresh the status of the gamepad in the "Controllers" menu of windows 98SE, it shows an "OK" after a second or so. But I don't think it really tests anything there too.

Maybe I need drivers to be installed and the card doesn't like the win98se default ones? I'm really stuck here!

PS: In the configuration page of the gravis gamepad pro, it reports that it's either not connected or not functioning properly, even if the win98se status reports the aforementioned "OK".

Hello GeorgeMan,

Year later, I am running into the same issue as you did with the Gravis Gamepad Pro on Windows 98SE. Did you ever find a solution to get the gamepad working properly?

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Reply 6 of 8, by GeorgeMan

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LiquifiedBeef wrote on 2022-10-10, 21:04:
GeorgeMan wrote on 2017-08-02, 08:01:
Thank you for your answers. […]
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Thank you for your answers.

I don't have any other sound cards installed in that machine and I don't want to install any other. Maybe I should try one for test, but I think it'll be alright, as is in the other machine.

I also don't have another gameport gamepad, so I can't really test the functionality of the gameport. 🙁 The only thing that I can confirm is that when you refresh the status of the gamepad in the "Controllers" menu of windows 98SE, it shows an "OK" after a second or so. But I don't think it really tests anything there too.

Maybe I need drivers to be installed and the card doesn't like the win98se default ones? I'm really stuck here!

PS: In the configuration page of the gravis gamepad pro, it reports that it's either not connected or not functioning properly, even if the win98se status reports the aforementioned "OK".

Hello GeorgeMan,

Year later, I am running into the same issue as you did with the Gravis Gamepad Pro on Windows 98SE. Did you ever find a solution to get the gamepad working properly?

Hi, unfortunately no. I ended up not using this gamepad at all anymore, but I still have it. In case you find something don't hesitate to enlighten us with the solution. 😁

1. Athlon XP 3200+ | ASUS A7V600 | Radeon 9500 @ Pro | SB Audigy 2 ZS | 80GB IDE, 500GB SSD IDE2Sata, 2x1TB HDDs | Win 98SE, XP, Vista
2. Pentium MMX 266| Qdi Titanium IIIB | Hercules graphics & Amber monitor | 1 + 10GB HDDs | DOS 6.22, Win 3.1, 95C

Reply 7 of 8, by LiquifiedBeef

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GeorgeMan wrote on 2022-11-01, 15:08:
LiquifiedBeef wrote on 2022-10-10, 21:04:
GeorgeMan wrote on 2017-08-02, 08:01:
Thank you for your answers. […]
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Thank you for your answers.

I don't have any other sound cards installed in that machine and I don't want to install any other. Maybe I should try one for test, but I think it'll be alright, as is in the other machine.

I also don't have another gameport gamepad, so I can't really test the functionality of the gameport. 🙁 The only thing that I can confirm is that when you refresh the status of the gamepad in the "Controllers" menu of windows 98SE, it shows an "OK" after a second or so. But I don't think it really tests anything there too.

Maybe I need drivers to be installed and the card doesn't like the win98se default ones? I'm really stuck here!

PS: In the configuration page of the gravis gamepad pro, it reports that it's either not connected or not functioning properly, even if the win98se status reports the aforementioned "OK".

Hello GeorgeMan,

Year later, I am running into the same issue as you did with the Gravis Gamepad Pro on Windows 98SE. Did you ever find a solution to get the gamepad working properly?

Hi, unfortunately no. I ended up not using this gamepad at all anymore, but I still have it. In case you find something don't hesitate to enlighten us with the solution. 😁

Hello GeorgeMan,

I got my Gravis gamepad working. In my case, it turns out disabling my PCI sound card was the trick. Must have been a conflict with the gameport.

Compaq Presario 5441
AMD K6-2 500Mhz
Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
64 MB RAM

Reply 8 of 8, by GeorgeMan

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LiquifiedBeef wrote on 2023-07-17, 12:35:
GeorgeMan wrote on 2022-11-01, 15:08:
LiquifiedBeef wrote on 2022-10-10, 21:04:

Hello GeorgeMan,

Year later, I am running into the same issue as you did with the Gravis Gamepad Pro on Windows 98SE. Did you ever find a solution to get the gamepad working properly?

Hi, unfortunately no. I ended up not using this gamepad at all anymore, but I still have it. In case you find something don't hesitate to enlighten us with the solution. 😁

Hello GeorgeMan,

I got my Gravis gamepad working. In my case, it turns out disabling my PCI sound card was the trick. Must have been a conflict with the gameport.

Hi and thank you for the answer. I still have it around, I'll keep that in mind for the next time I try. 😀

1. Athlon XP 3200+ | ASUS A7V600 | Radeon 9500 @ Pro | SB Audigy 2 ZS | 80GB IDE, 500GB SSD IDE2Sata, 2x1TB HDDs | Win 98SE, XP, Vista
2. Pentium MMX 266| Qdi Titanium IIIB | Hercules graphics & Amber monitor | 1 + 10GB HDDs | DOS 6.22, Win 3.1, 95C