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First post, by olivil

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Hi!

I have this AWE64 Gold that won't stop "clicking" (around 4 times per second) when FM sound is playing.

Here's my system:
Asus P5A-B motherboard
Pentium 200 MMX
32 MB RAM
SB AWE64 Gold
GUS MAX
S3 Virge 2MB PCI
3COM etherlink III PCI

I tried a couple of things that didn't work:
1- Setting the SB IRQ (5) to Legacy ISA in my BIOS
2- Changing the IRQ from 5 to 7
3- Removing the GUS from my system

At this point I'm pretty sure the card has a problem, even though everything else works perfectly, and no clicking occurs in non-FM sounds.
The card looks okay physically.

Any of you experienced something similar?

Reply 1 of 16, by Jo22

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Sorry, I've got no AWE64 at hand right now. 🙁
Maybe setting the ISA bus frequency to ~7 MHz changes something.

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Reply 3 of 16, by olivil

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No I mean FM (Adlib) music! Anything else is ok. I did not try it without the 3COM, I will.

I dont think my motherboard supports changing the ISA bus frequency, or at least I haven't seen any options in my BIOS.

Reply 5 of 16, by gerwin

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olivil wrote:

Any of you experienced something similar?

Yes, I perceived the same FM issue when I tried an AWE64 gold. But I did not try to solve it. I swapped out the AWE64 gold for another soundcard. I know this does not help much.

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Reply 6 of 16, by olivil

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Deksor wrote:

Is your FSB higher than normal ? (Like 75MHz for example)

Nope, I'm on "stock" 3 x 66 MHz for my P200 MMX.

gerwin wrote:
olivil wrote:

Any of you experienced something similar?

Yes, I perceived the same FM issue when I tried an AWE64 gold. But I did not try to solve it. I swapped out the AWE64 gold for another soundcard. I know this does not help much.

That's interesting! Do you remember your PC configuration at the time?

E: Okay I have a breakthrough! I tried without the 3COM card, which didn't change a thing.

However I just noticed that I don't get the clicks testing FM with Sound Blaster Diagnose. Also from that point on I don't get the clicks until I reboot!

To be clear here's what I'm doing:

1. Boot
2. Test FM (wolf3d), with clicks
3. run diagnose.exe, with the Synthesized Music test, no clicks
4. Test FM (wolf3d), no clicks
5. Reboot
6. Test FM (wolf3d), with clicks
7. ....

This is a config problem, I'll investigate further 😀

Reply 8 of 16, by olivil

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Yes I am. Here's my AWE64 related stuff in my autoexec,bat

SET CTCM=C:\CTCM
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
C:\CTCM\CTCU /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\AWEUTIL.COM /S /R:10 /C:10

I tried messing with the order of things to no avail.

Found out that running aweutil /S after the diagnose workaround brings back the clicking.

Reply 9 of 16, by olivil

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Okay so here's what I found:

In my autoexec.bat..
If I don't run AWEUTIL: no FM, of course

If I don't run AWEUTIL, but then run diagnose.exe: The card is initiated perfectly, but I have to run the program, wait for the tests, exit, ...

If I run AWEUTIL: FM with clicks

If I run AWEUTIL, then diagnose.exe: The card is reinitialized, I lose my reverb and chorus effect, but I get no clicks

I'm fine with having no chorus or reverb.

I'd have to find a way to automatically initialize the card with only diagnose.exe, is that possible?

Reply 10 of 16, by gerwin

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Weird stuff. But at least there might be a solution in the line of what you are currently trying.
What if you just switch the order of these two lines, like this:?

C:\SB16\AWEUTIL.COM /S /R:10 /C:10
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S

The system that I was using at the time was i440BX based. Either from Aopen or Gigabyte.

--> ISA Soundcard Overview // Doom MBF 2.04 // SetMul

Reply 15 of 16, by Joseph_Joestar

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Simmerhead wrote on 2021-01-31, 19:08:

Where do you find AWEUTIL 1.35? I've got the same problem.

This link should lead you to AWE64 Gold driver section of Creative's website.

If you select "DOS" in the pull down menu at the bottom, you should be able to download s64basic.exe and ctcmbbs.exe. After you unpack and install both, you will get aweutil.com v1.36.

This is assuming you're running MS-DOS 6.22. If you're using Win9x, you will need to download 95dosapp.exe instead.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
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Reply 16 of 16, by Simmerhead

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2021-01-31, 19:31:
This link should lead you to AWE64 Gold driver section of Creative's website. […]
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Simmerhead wrote on 2021-01-31, 19:08:

Where do you find AWEUTIL 1.35? I've got the same problem.

This link should lead you to AWE64 Gold driver section of Creative's website.

If you select "DOS" in the pull down menu at the bottom, you should be able to download s64basic.exe and ctcmbbs.exe. After you unpack and install both, you will get aweutil.com v1.36.

This is assuming you're running MS-DOS 6.22. If you're using Win9x, you will need to download 95dosapp.exe instead.

Thanks a bunch!

Simmerhead - Old is gold!