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First post, by chrisNova777

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hey guys
so maybe some of you might have noticed that i own + operate a site that focuses on old tech for music production purposes
called http://www.oldschooldaw.com - during the process of researching information for my website it came to my attention
some notes from i think a cubase installation - i think it was a readme file - but it had some notes to do with a problem that came about
from manufacturers altering the actual windows graphics driver file in a way that had a detrimental effect on MIDI timing, due to the video card driver locking up the PCI bus or something... in the end the person reccommended to use a Matrox card (i forget which) because the driver had an option to re-enable the pci bus check or something? to avoid this detrimental effect in cubase

ok i found the actual post i made on that subject here:
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php/ … 73.msg1006.html

so if u visit there it will explain the problem better then i can off the top of my head..
(it basically says that the video card was responsibly for glitches in audio on sound card... if u used a PCI sound card in combination with PCI graphic cards..)

so yea basically im looking for reccommendations on what EARLY PCI video cards from 1994/1995
there are available + purchasable somehow...

i have an ATI MACH64 that i still have from when i was 18 years old but its broken im trying to get it fixed
thanks to some helpful tips by some vogons users about the missing electronic components.. i just have to get
a 150 UH inductor for my local electronics repair guy to solder onto my board + i should be good.. the card works
it just comes up asyellow because its signal path for the blue filter is severed by the broken component i broke
20 years ago probably with a screwdriver attempting to screw the card in to whateevr machine iwas putting it in..

anyway yea.. so basically im looking for alternatives to the mach64... VGA PCI cards that are from the mid 90s (1994 / 1995)
can i browse vgamuseum by date? i dont think it lets u otherwise i wouldnt have had to make this post 😉

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AM386DX40 | Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 (486DX2-80) | GA586VX (p75) + r7000PCI | ABIT Be6 (pII-233) matroxG400 AGP

Reply 1 of 8, by Deksor

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I've got a dual head S3 video card with 2 s3 865 chips on it in my 5x86 that has labels that says 1993 and 1995

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Reply 2 of 8, by Jo22

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The S3 Vision series is also from the '94-'95 time line. 😀
http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/S3#S3_Vision
Re: Does anyone still have a S3 Trio 32/64/Virge cards?

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Reply 3 of 8, by chrisNova777

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im adding content here ; PCI: http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php/ … oard,249.0.html
and here: ISA : http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php/ … oard,247.0.html
im wondering what other cards competed with the mach64 GX between late 94-late 1996

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Reply 4 of 8, by chrisNova777

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i just dug up info on:
Diamond EDGE (Nvidia NV1)
Matrox mystique <<< this card i totally had back in the day,
http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/pirx/matrox/ … 8d_mystique.jpg
i totally remember that box i had it sittng on a shelf for a few years

http://www.oldschooldaw.com | vintage PC/MAC MIDI/DAW | Asus mobo archive | Sound Modules | Vintage MIDI Interfaces
AM386DX40 | Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 (486DX2-80) | GA586VX (p75) + r7000PCI | ABIT Be6 (pII-233) matroxG400 AGP

Reply 5 of 8, by chrisNova777

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http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t … 6473&highlight=
this post has some additional info re: graphic cards + PCI BUS etc
which leads back to:
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=3106.0
this doubledawg utility will show you the latency of your pci devices!

http://web.archive.org/web/20030508192546/htt … pcilatency.html

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Reply 6 of 8, by Anonymous Coward

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Mach64GX was a 1994 card. It was replaced by the VT/GT series in 95/96.

I think it primarily competed primarily with the S3 96x (VRAM) based cards. Matrox was around in 1994, but I think it wasn't really a thing until 1996 when the Mystique came out. Weitek had their P9100 chips, and I can't recall exactly when the #9 Imagine 128 came out, but that was a pretty big deal for a short while.
There were a whole bunch of low-end offerings from Cirrus Logic, Trident, ARK Logic, ALG, Tseng etc, but those were competing with the DRAM based Mach64 CT.

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Reply 7 of 8, by chrisNova777

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yea the mach64 card i have says 1994 on it... on the pcb.
i knew there was a reason why i never got rid of it.. even if its broken..
im getting mine fixed! by adding the missing inductor back on the board

http://www.oldschooldaw.com | vintage PC/MAC MIDI/DAW | Asus mobo archive | Sound Modules | Vintage MIDI Interfaces
AM386DX40 | Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 (486DX2-80) | GA586VX (p75) + r7000PCI | ABIT Be6 (pII-233) matroxG400 AGP