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First post, by aop

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Hi!

I'm putting together a retro PC but I'm running into bit of a trouble with the CF to IDE adapter and the CF card (Kingston Elite Pro 133X 32GB CF/32GB-S2) as it's not detected by the motherboard BIOS as a hard drive at all.

I wonder if it's because the CF card may not support UDMA?

I tested the card on other PC with USB adapter and it seems to work just fine and I tested the motherboard with 30GB Seagate hard drive and it works fine too.

Picture of the setup:
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Reply 1 of 6, by jesolo

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I've had mixed results with these type of CF to IDE adapters (with the female connector that plugs directly into the connector on your motherboard).
Sometimes they work (gets detected) and sometimes they don't.

The other adapter (with the bracket and the male connector, that you must connect via an IDE cable just like any hard drive) seemed to have worked for me.

Reply 2 of 6, by brostenen

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Mixed results too in my setup's. I won't recommend any CF card for Windows at all. I fear the swapping will burn out a CF card. So the question is, if you are going for MS-Dos 6.22 or Win98 setup? There are other and better alternatives out there for Win98.

As an example. You can get a low noise 80 or 120 gb harddrive and mod the capacity of that drive, in order for it to work on the GA-5AX.

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Reply 3 of 6, by jade_angel

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My experience is that those adapters are shonky. The other type, that needs a cable, is more likely to work.

As for burning out the CF, possibly a risk over a long enough period. Make sure you have enough RAM (128, or 512 if you have a K6-2+ or K6-III+, or 768 if you have a K6-III+ and are running Win2k/WinXP), and back it up regularly.

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Reply 5 of 6, by bjwil1991

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Hi!

I'm putting together a retro PC but I'm running into bit of a trouble with the CF to IDE adapter and the CF card (Kingston Elite Pro 133X 32GB CF/32GB-S2) as it's not detected by the motherboard BIOS as a hard drive at all.

I wonder if it's because the CF card may not support UDMA?

I tested the card on other PC with USB adapter and it seems to work just fine and I tested the motherboard with 30GB Seagate hard drive and it works fine too.

Picture of the setup:
VS4neVSh.jpg

Full res:
https://i.imgur.com/VS4neVS.jpg

Try reversing the CF to IDE adapter around and see what happens. Some of those don't have the little bump on one side, so it's hard to tell which way it get inserted into the IDE port. I have an old IDE ribbon cable that has no bump on the side, but I can tell which one's Pin 1 (red coated = Pin 1).

That, and check the jumper settings for the amount of power to go to it as well (if there is one).

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Reply 6 of 6, by aop

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I got a 80GB Seagate Barracude 7200.7 hard disk from a friend and set it up with that. I first flashed the newest BIOS with one of those GOTEK USB to floppy adapters and then installed Windows 98 SE on it.

Current setup:
Gigabyte GA-5AX rev 4.1
AMD K6-III+ @ 600 MHz
256MB 100 MHz CL2 SDRAM
Velocity 100 8MB
SB Live! CT4780
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB
Creative 48x CD-ROM
HEC 300W PSU

I first had a K6-2 400 MHz on it and Carmageddon II was pretty choppy on it but installing the K6-III+ 450 MHz made a huge difference and overlocking it to 600 MHz made the game pretty smooth with some occasional frame drops.

I still need a case and a real Voodoo 3 for the machine. A good condition CRT would be nice too since the Samsung 959NF I'm using is pretty worn out.