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Re: Compaq Deskpro!

Postby Radical Vision » 2017-11-10 @ 10:27

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:Paid 80 for this on eBay. It's supposedly working and passed a system stress test. The IO is untested but the fact it passed a stress test tells me they keyboard and mouse ports are at least ok and I have a Compaq USB PCI card I can use for USB if its USB bad. It's a Deskpro 6266. I've been wanting a Pentium II AGP system for a while now for 1997 to 1998 games that I feel are too new for the S7 MMX machine and too old for the Pentium III. He was asking 88 total shipping included but I talked him down to 80 even citing the minor case damage and the IO ports being untested and the work it would take to bring it back to factory condition. Not a bad deal considering there was already a wealth of information available about these machines and Deskpros are my preferred model of vintage computer.


Pentium II 266 MMX (Kalmath?)
256MB SDR (Maxed out)
10GB HDD (Not stock. Not in a 1998 system no way)
ESS 1869F Integrated Audio (No clue if that's any good. Will be replaced by my SB Live)
CD ROM Drive (unknown speed)
3.5 Inch Floppy
Unknown AGP 2x Video Card (Should be either a Rage Pro Turbo, a Matrox Millinium II, or a Matrox G200)

It should have 4 PCI and 2 ISA. There combo slots so only 4 cards may be installed at once. The AGP is nice but the caveat is that it uses a non-standard mounting bracket so only cards with top mounted VGA can work. I'll have to swap the bracket but that's not hard to do. It will either get my RiVA 128 or the card I just bought as era correct AGP video unless it has the G200 option. If it has the G200 I'll leave it configured as is. It will also get my half functional Voodoo2 (only works in GLIDE and with one texture unit disabled. So it runs like a 8MB Voodoo Graphics). This will be the base for my Windows 95 build. I'll likely use 2.1 OSR since that has the USB and AGP drivers built in if I remember correctly. I'll also install my second gen (non-gold ports) Soundblaster LIVE although the onboard audio has a rather beefy speaker backed a by Phillips amp). Since it's been brought up here before let me go into detail on what the deal with those half bracket Compaq video cards are just to dispel any standing mis-understandings. (Note: Picture from UXWBIlls video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhlYV836tUE)

Basically, they are normal AGP video cards with half height brackets missing the bottom portion that are dual width in reverse. Shown here is the Rage Pro Turbo option. It's a normal PCB. It just lacks the metal bracket like seen on my Rage IIc that I just bought shown in the second picture.


In theory any card that:

1.) Has a VGA port that is mounted on the top 33 percentish of the board
2.) Can have its bracket swapped out
3.) Does not extend lower than the AGP slot (it would hit the IO port below if it did)

could be retro-fitted into this system. Vice versa the Compaq cards could probably be fitted into any normal ATX machine. The bottom half of the bracket slot however would be blank unless you swap in a compatible full height bracket. Overall if you have basic computer knowledge and aren't trying to fit unreasonably newer cards with DVI ports on the bottom into it its not that restrictive as most 90s video cards fit the above 3 criteria.



The hell did you really pay 80$ for that thing ? Lol i get surprised every single time how much money people give for parts, while i will not spend much at all...
There was times long ago like 7 years where i was new in the old PC hardware, and i did pay so much money for one single part, for example 40$ for just kit of G. Skills 2GB DDR400 with red heatsink, or 20$ for EPoX 8RDA+ Pro, or 50$ for 3Dfx Voodoo 2... But no more that was back then, from quite some time i pay from little to nothing for hardware, im just tired to pay people much money for old hardware, simply because i did found a way to pay from small, to get even free old stuff just like that. Or even trades for things that i don`t need, for the old hardware/PC that other people don`t need...

But i guess things are just like that some people pay, others like me don`t.... I even know a guy that works in IBM and he buys all the time hardware for insane amount of money, wile i find similar hardware free, or for 5-10 euros....


Here now i did get that great dual slot 1 PIII machine for free, the PSU is damaged, but no problem i will find replacement, and better case as well and GPU and will be good to go. It was from braked deal i did sell IBM Model M, one guy did got interested to buy it, but he offered me lower price then i did desire, it was used Razer Black widow 2013 Ultimate and this machine, or 50 euros and the machine, but i did want at least 70 euros and the machine, he did not want, and i did brake the deal, later on he did donated me this machine, he did not need it, this is how i did get it, not a single penny...
https://imgur.com/a/rqkBh


Here have the great Gigabyte BX2000 and the Quantum Fireball 10GB, they was from trade whole slot 1 machine whit that board and Quantum, and some surprise brand new PII new in original box, i did sell it for 25 euros, the Riva Pro is for free from a donation guy, the CPU Pentium II 450MHz from some filthy gypsy for 2 euros, the case, memory, compaq PSU and others are from trade or donation..
https://imgur.com/a/jUmfz


I say all that because i can`t understand how people pay so much money for parts that i will not even consider to take for way cheaper, or trade or other, but who know different people different minds...


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Re: Compaq Deskpro!

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2017-11-10 @ 11:30

Radical Vision wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:Paid 80 for this on eBay. It's supposedly working and passed a system stress test. The IO is untested but the fact it passed a stress test tells me they keyboard and mouse ports are at least ok and I have a Compaq USB PCI card I can use for USB if its USB bad. It's a Deskpro 6266. I've been wanting a Pentium II AGP system for a while now for 1997 to 1998 games that I feel are too new for the S7 MMX machine and too old for the Pentium III. He was asking 88 total shipping included but I talked him down to 80 even citing the minor case damage and the IO ports being untested and the work it would take to bring it back to factory condition. Not a bad deal considering there was already a wealth of information available about these machines and Deskpros are my preferred model of vintage computer.


Pentium II 266 MMX (Kalmath?)
256MB SDR (Maxed out)
10GB HDD (Not stock. Not in a 1998 system no way)
ESS 1869F Integrated Audio (No clue if that's any good. Will be replaced by my SB Live)
CD ROM Drive (unknown speed)
3.5 Inch Floppy
Unknown AGP 2x Video Card (Should be either a Rage Pro Turbo, a Matrox Millinium II, or a Matrox G200)

It should have 4 PCI and 2 ISA. There combo slots so only 4 cards may be installed at once. The AGP is nice but the caveat is that it uses a non-standard mounting bracket so only cards with top mounted VGA can work. I'll have to swap the bracket but that's not hard to do. It will either get my RiVA 128 or the card I just bought as era correct AGP video unless it has the G200 option. If it has the G200 I'll leave it configured as is. It will also get my half functional Voodoo2 (only works in GLIDE and with one texture unit disabled. So it runs like a 8MB Voodoo Graphics). This will be the base for my Windows 95 build. I'll likely use 2.1 OSR since that has the USB and AGP drivers built in if I remember correctly. I'll also install my second gen (non-gold ports) Soundblaster LIVE although the onboard audio has a rather beefy speaker backed a by Phillips amp). Since it's been brought up here before let me go into detail on what the deal with those half bracket Compaq video cards are just to dispel any standing mis-understandings. (Note: Picture from UXWBIlls video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhlYV836tUE)

Basically, they are normal AGP video cards with half height brackets missing the bottom portion that are dual width in reverse. Shown here is the Rage Pro Turbo option. It's a normal PCB. It just lacks the metal bracket like seen on my Rage IIc that I just bought shown in the second picture.


In theory any card that:

1.) Has a VGA port that is mounted on the top 33 percentish of the board
2.) Can have its bracket swapped out
3.) Does not extend lower than the AGP slot (it would hit the IO port below if it did)

could be retro-fitted into this system. Vice versa the Compaq cards could probably be fitted into any normal ATX machine. The bottom half of the bracket slot however would be blank unless you swap in a compatible full height bracket. Overall if you have basic computer knowledge and aren't trying to fit unreasonably newer cards with DVI ports on the bottom into it its not that restrictive as most 90s video cards fit the above 3 criteria.



The hell did you really pay 80$ for that thing ? Lol i get surprised every single time how much money people give for parts, while i will not spend much at all...
There was times long ago like 7 years where i was new in the old PC hardware, and i did pay so much money for one single part, for example 40$ for just kit of G. Skills 2GB DDR400 with red heatsink, or 20$ for EPoX 8RDA+ Pro, or 50$ for 3Dfx Voodoo 2... But no more that was back then, from quite some time i pay from little to nothing for hardware, im just tired to pay people much money for old hardware, simply because i did found a way to pay from small, to get even free old stuff just like that. Or even trades for things that i don`t need, for the old hardware/PC that other people don`t need...

But i guess things are just like that some people pay, others like me don`t.... I even know a guy that works in IBM and he buys all the time hardware for insane amount of money, wile i find similar hardware free, or for 5-10 euros....


Here now i did get that great dual slot 1 PIII machine for free, the PSU is damaged, but no problem i will find replacement, and better case as well and GPU and will be good to go. It was from braked deal i did sell IBM Model M, one guy did got interested to buy it, but he offered me lower price then i did desire, it was used Razer Black widow 2013 Ultimate and this machine, or 50 euros and the machine, but i did want at least 70 euros and the machine, he did not want, and i did brake the deal, later on he did donated me this machine, he did not need it, this is how i did get it, not a single penny...
https://imgur.com/a/rqkBh


Here have the great Gigabyte BX2000 and the Quantum Fireball 10GB, they was from trade whole slot 1 machine whit that board and Quantum, and some surprise brand new PII new in original box, i did sell it for 25 euros, the Riva Pro is for free from a donation guy, the CPU Pentium II 450MHz from some filthy gypsy for 2 euros, the case, memory, compaq PSU and others are from trade or donation..
https://imgur.com/a/jUmfz


I say all that because i can`t understand how people pay so much money for parts that i will not even consider to take for way cheaper, or trade or other, but who know different people different minds...


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So far I have no regrets. I retrofitted my STB Velocity 128 (Riva 128) into it and its a great machine for very early 3D titles like Monster Truck Madness, Interstate 76, and Star Trek: Starfleet Academy.

It also has my half working V2 and my SB Live. I intend to switch it over to Windows 95 as soon as I get some more CD Rs but for now I'm stuck with Windows 98SE which is period incorrect for a Pentium2/RIVA 128 combo. I may also drop the RAM down to 128 and up the hard drive to 20GB.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuFY6Z ... 2tV8b00x_A
1996|P200MMX|64MB EDO|Virge DX 4MB|SB16 OPL3
1999|P3 933|384MB SDR|GF256 SDR 32MB|CT4620
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Re: Compaq Deskpro!

Postby kazeobi » 2017-11-14 @ 21:23

Got this one for about 30 euro. This is Deskpro 2000 5200MMX model, but instead of S3 & ess cards, inside were Matrox PCI and Sound Blastet 16 CT2290 cards. Now I need do some serious cleaning...
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