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Digging around in my swag ..for something else entirely ..and found this ..
Looks to be in good order ..physically ..but nothing to try it in atm..
Any good ?
rgds
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Reply 2 of 12, by Vipersan

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Thanks for that Kamerat ..
Somewhere I may have a mobo that will suit ..
I'll have to do some more digging..
Sadly I dont have a suitable case or psu ..
I feel another project coming on..
If I find the mobo I post a pic to this thread..
rgds
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Reply 3 of 12, by Vipersan

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Nope ..
Not old enough ..and this is the oldest mobo I own ..
doh!

..advice on what to look out for ?

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Reply 4 of 12, by Ozzuneoj

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Vipersan wrote:
Nope .. Not old enough ..and this is the oldest mobo I own .. doh! […]
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Nope ..
Not old enough ..and this is the oldest mobo I own ..
doh!

..advice on what to look out for ?

Woa... pretty sure I just got a couple of boards identical to that one in a lot of parts recently. AT board, ATX power, AGP, Interesting combination for sure.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 5 of 12, by Vipersan

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Yep ..
i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual ..
This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NOT the same ..??
So what have I got here ?
anybody ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DFI-P5BV3-Socket-7 … yUAAOSwCQZZBvJJ

Reply 6 of 12, by Tetrium

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Vipersan wrote:
Nope .. Not old enough ..and this is the oldest mobo I own .. doh! […]
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Nope ..
Not old enough ..and this is the oldest mobo I own ..
doh!

..advice on what to look out for ?

Dude, how hard is it to just google the part number and see that it's a Socket 3 CPU which will need a Socket 3 motherboard?
Googling part numbers is a must if you want to figure out unknown stuff.

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Reply 8 of 12, by Tetrium

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Vipersan wrote:
Yep .. i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual .. This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NO […]
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Yep ..
i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual ..
This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NOT the same ..??
So what have I got here ?
anybody ?

Your board is a DFI P5BV3+, you can probably find the manual by googling that part number. It looks like an AT ss7 board with AGP, which is quite nice but useless if you don't have any of the other AT parts needed or at least have some converters.
Your board does have an ATX power connector and it's possible to mount AT motherboards in somewhat newer cases (though maybe not the most recent ones). Finding a backplate would be tricky, but you could just leave it open.

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Reply 9 of 12, by Vipersan

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Tetrium wrote:
Vipersan wrote:
Yep .. i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual .. This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NO […]
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Yep ..
i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual ..
This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NOT the same ..??
So what have I got here ?
anybody ?

Your board is a DFI P5BV3+, you can probably find the manual by googling that part number. It looks like an AT ss7 board with AGP, which is quite nice but useless if you don't have any of the other AT parts needed or at least have some converters.
Your board does have an ATX power connector and it's possible to mount AT motherboards in somewhat newer cases (though maybe not the most recent ones). Finding a backplate would be tricky, but you could just leave it open.

Sorry I asked now ..
I was just a little curious as the DFI P5BV3+ mobo I have is different to the pictures I have seen say on Toms Hardware..
and yet it has the same Ident DFI P5BV3+
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/socket-7- … -1998,79-7.html
I guess the differences must be be tied to the Revision
For example mine has 3 dimm slots ..whereas the version pictured at Toms hardware has 2 simm and 2 dimm
So there must be variations.

As to the 486 ..
I have never used one before ..and was simply asking for a recommendation on suitable mobo types..
rgds
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Reply 10 of 12, by dionb

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Well as it's an Overdrive, pretty much any 486 motherboard would suffice. That's like asking which car you could get that takes a certain fuel type. Everything from a Daihatsu Cuore via various small trucks to quite a few super sports cars accept RON95 unleaded petrol. What should you get when you find a tank full of the stuff? Depends entirely on what you are looking for.

Same with motherboards for that CPU. What do you want to do with it? What other components from a similar era do you have? What cases do you have or could you get?

Right now I'm looking at a board it could fit into, with BabyAT form factor, 4x 16b ISA, 1x 8b 'ISA' PC slot and 2x VLB, 2x 72p SIMM and 4x 30p SIMM, and no I/O onboard. You could also find boards with only 16b ISA, with EISA, with PCI or various combinations thereof. You could find board with 72p SIMM only or 30p SIMM only. You could find boards in full AT or LPX form factor (or indeed whole non-standard systems), and boards with various components onboard (I/O, VGA, maybe even more) or not.

Once again, pretty much any 486 board (So1, 2 or 3) could run that beast, which is why it is pretty sought after. If you want to run it. you can take almost anything it will fit into.

Reply 12 of 12, by Tetrium

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Vipersan wrote:
Sorry I asked now .. I was just a little curious as the DFI P5BV3+ mobo I have is different to the pictures I have seen say on T […]
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Tetrium wrote:
Vipersan wrote:
Yep .. i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual .. This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NO […]
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Yep ..
i guess this mobo is quite rare/unusual ..
This is the closest I can find ..and although it has the same Ident ..it is NOT the same ..??
So what have I got here ?
anybody ?

Your board is a DFI P5BV3+, you can probably find the manual by googling that part number. It looks like an AT ss7 board with AGP, which is quite nice but useless if you don't have any of the other AT parts needed or at least have some converters.
Your board does have an ATX power connector and it's possible to mount AT motherboards in somewhat newer cases (though maybe not the most recent ones). Finding a backplate would be tricky, but you could just leave it open.

Sorry I asked now ..
I was just a little curious as the DFI P5BV3+ mobo I have is different to the pictures I have seen say on Toms Hardware..
and yet it has the same Ident DFI P5BV3+
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/socket-7- … -1998,79-7.html
I guess the differences must be be tied to the Revision
For example mine has 3 dimm slots ..whereas the version pictured at Toms hardware has 2 simm and 2 dimm
So there must be variations.

As to the 486 ..
I have never used one before ..and was simply asking for a recommendation on suitable mobo types..
rgds
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It's what Dionb tried to explain and as I tried to explain earlier.

What you mention about revisions and the DIMM and DIMM slots is actually true. Many AT and ATX boards of that era (especially the Socket 7 stuff) are like this across revisions. Often one would see exactly what you described, one revision with 2 SIMM slots and 2 DIMM slots and a newer one with 3 DIMM slots and no SIMM ones anymore and often they would have solder dots as well.

About the suitable motherboards, what would suit your needs? That Overdrive will fit dozens of boards, it's too generic a question!
Try to find out on your own what certain hardware is capable of and then see if anything matches your interests.
That CPU is a pretty nice one to have, as it will work in boards that don't support 3.3v CPUs by themselves. That CPU was actually specifically designed to be an upgrade chip for older motherboards that weren't capable of handling newer chips by themselves. And on top of that it looks nice as well 😁

Whats missing in your collections?
My retro rigs (old topic)
Interesting Vogons threads (links to Vogonswiki)
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