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Best LGA 775 Motherboard with AGP and DDR400?

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Reply 120 of 133, by a_h_adl

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FiIosofia wrote on 2021-08-04, 21:14:
bnice7 wrote on 2021-08-04, 16:45:
mockingbird wrote on 2021-08-04, 00:38:

Gigabyte GA-8I865GME-775 , it even has drivers for windows 98.

No support for Core2 though 🙁

I run a dual core 3.4Ghz and its pretty decent. Tops out at 2GB ram though.

It would be great to know which CPU exactly, the official Gigabyte page doesn't show any CPUs close to that number.

Reply 121 of 133, by ODwilly

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a_h_adl wrote on 2022-05-19, 09:24:
FiIosofia wrote on 2021-08-04, 21:14:
bnice7 wrote on 2021-08-04, 16:45:

No support for Core2 though 🙁

I run a dual core 3.4Ghz and its pretty decent. Tops out at 2GB ram though.

It would be great to know which CPU exactly, the official Gigabyte page doesn't show any CPUs close to that number.

My guess is a Pentium D 945

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Reply 122 of 133, by dormcat

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ODwilly wrote on 2022-05-20, 00:16:
a_h_adl wrote on 2022-05-19, 09:24:
FiIosofia wrote on 2021-08-04, 21:14:

I run a dual core 3.4Ghz and its pretty decent. Tops out at 2GB ram though.

It would be great to know which CPU exactly, the official Gigabyte page doesn't show any CPUs close to that number.

My guess is a Pentium D 945

The "original" GA-8I865GME-775 supports up to Pentium D 940 (3.2GHz) but not Pentium D 945. OTOH the revised, RoHS-compliant GA-8I865GME-775-RH has four revisions; the final rev. 6.6 can support up to Core 2 Extreme QX6800 (Kentsfield with 1066MHz FSB) just like any other last few MB using Intel 865 series chipset. They simply can't handle Core 2 8x00 or 9x00 series with 1333 or 1600MHz FSB.

Reply 123 of 133, by a_h_adl

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dormcat wrote on 2022-05-20, 04:32:

The "original" GA-8I865GME-775 supports up to Pentium D 940 (3.2GHz) but not Pentium D 945. OTOH the revised, RoHS-compliant GA-8I865GME-775-RH has four revisions; the final rev. 6.6 can support up to Core 2 Extreme QX6800 (Kentsfield with 1066MHz FSB) just like any other last few MB using Intel 865 series chipset. They simply can't handle Core 2 8x00 or 9x00 series with 1333 or 1600MHz FSB.

I just recently purchased a not so cheap GA-8I865GME-775-RH rev. 6.6 (haven't received it yet though) and intended to pair it with a QX6800. Considering that motherboard still has official win9x drivers, if I want to try win9x it surely benefits more with a faster CPU rather than a quad core.

Reply 124 of 133, by dormcat

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a_h_adl wrote on 2022-05-20, 12:01:
dormcat wrote on 2022-05-20, 04:32:

The "original" GA-8I865GME-775 supports up to Pentium D 940 (3.2GHz) but not Pentium D 945. OTOH the revised, RoHS-compliant GA-8I865GME-775-RH has four revisions; the final rev. 6.6 can support up to Core 2 Extreme QX6800 (Kentsfield with 1066MHz FSB) just like any other last few MB using Intel 865 series chipset. They simply can't handle Core 2 8x00 or 9x00 series with 1333 or 1600MHz FSB.

I just recently purchased a not so cheap GA-8I865GME-775-RH rev. 6.6 (haven't received it yet though) and intended to pair it with a QX6800. Considering that motherboard still has official win9x drivers, if I want to try win9x it surely benefits more with a faster CPU rather than a quad core.

In that case you might want to consider Pentium D 960 @ 3.60 GHz.

I'd rather not to use any NetBurst but that's just my personal preference.

Reply 125 of 133, by agent_x007

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There is no positive sides of using Pentium D over Core 2 for Win98 (if board supports Core 2 CPUs).
For 98 + XP dual boot, a Quad core may have some merrit, but for pure Win98 - use X6800 (the non-Quadcore one).

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Reply 126 of 133, by Socket3

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WallpaperDesigner wrote on 2018-03-16, 17:40:

I'm looking to pair it with an LGA 775 P4.

Well, for an LGA775 P4 or Pentium D, my favorite mainboard is the ABIT AS8-V.

- intel i865 chipset - It has win98, ME, 2k and XP drivers. It will also happily run Windows 7
- Great for overclocking - BIOS includes Abit SoftMenu section witch allows you to set the FSB, Voltage and Multipier for the CPU as well as FSB/AGP/PCI/MEM ratio, Memory timings and so on.
- full size ATX board - 5x PCI, 1x AGP 8X,
- 4 rear USB, 2 internal USB 2.0 headers, 2x SATA, 2xPATA. It works fine with most SATA SSDs I've tried on my boards.
- 4 memory slots (dual channel of course)
- CPU support list includes the 3.8Ghz P4 670 and it also supports Pentium D CPUs. I run a pentium D 945 in mine right now and dual-boot XP and 98, but my board saw quite a few crazy hardware combinations and quite a bit of overclocking.
- Very stable. I've been able to run a P4 640 @ 3768 with OCZ DDR running at 466Mhz with little to no voltage increase.

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It does have a bad side - watch out for bad caps. I have 3 AS8-V's (yea, I really like this board) and on one of them the caps started bulging. ABIT boards of this vintage tend to suffer from capacitor plague.

Reply 127 of 133, by The Serpent Rider

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- Bad caps
- Only 4 PCI slots
- Bedrock ICH5 features
- Pentium support only

To summarize: mediocre board.

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Reply 128 of 133, by Socket3

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-05-21, 01:20:

To summarize: mediocre board.

If you want to run a Frankenstein Core 2 Duo DDR1/AGP PC then yeah, the AS8-V is not very interesting but OP wants to build a Pentium 4 system:

WallpaperDesigner wrote on 2018-03-16, 17:40:

I'm looking to pair it with an LGA 775 P4.

The only possible downside I can see to ICH5 I can see is the fact that it lacks ATA133 support, but it makes up for it by having SATA. Only 4 PCI slots are more then enough for most. I use one for a sound card (Creative Sound Blaster LIVE!) and the rest are free. The board has on board LAN witch works fine under win98 and XP. No need for a SATA PCI controller unless you want SATA-2. Maybe for RAID or SCSI? That would eat up another PCI slot. Then let's say you add a wifi card - one with win98 drivers - but those are few and far between - and painfully slow. Not to mention they offer no advantage over a USB 2.0 wifi card in a configuration like this... And I'm out of ideas regarding PCI expansion cards....

[EDITED] VOODOO 2 CARDS!!! A pair of these would take up 2 slots + the sound card, and the 4th slot is right under the AGP card making it useless unless you want to suffocate the GPU. I guess you could use a low profile PCI card in there without choking the AGP card. Or one could use a Voodoo 3 PCI and save another PCI slot - you just gave me an idea! I'm gonna try and build a win9x / winXP dual boot PC with one of my spare AS8-V boards, a pentium 4 640, a geforce FX5900 Ultra and a Voodoo 3 PCI - that might be fun!!!

As for bad caps - 90% of boards from that time frame suffer from capacitor plague, including the GA-8I865GME-775, ASRock ConRoe865PE and ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2. The latter also suffers from poor quality FETs. The only ones not prone to bad caps are newly made Asrock 775i65G, but it doesn't compare to the Abit in layout and features. 3 PCI slots, only 2 are really usable - basic bios and little to no overclocking compared to the Abit, and it uses the same ICH5 SB.

Also I'd like to add - regarding the Core 2 Duo in i865 chipset boards discussion - I've played around with these a few years ago and I didn't like the results. Sure, it is possible, but the resulting build is far from stable, especially in wi9x - AND - my only logical reasoning for running a intel 865 chipset board is it's excellent win9x drivers and support. In fact I never managed to install win9x using my 4CoreDual-SATA2 with a e6600. I tried everything - disable SATA, drop down to 512Mb of ram, update bios, unnoficial bios, recap, MOSFET upgrade, you name it. I managed to get win98 installed after switching to a pentium D 945 - after witch I installed PATCHMEM, put 2GB of ram in the board and it worked fine in win98. Then I tried the e6600 again and the PC would lock up while booting '98 - despite it booting just fine in XP. But for XP you can run any LGA775 motherboard including late x48 and nforce 780i, so why bother?

Reply 129 of 133, by The Serpent Rider

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This board also doesn't have gigabit LAN.

basic bios and little to no overclocking compared to the Abit

Core 2 support makes any overclocking on P4 only board a moot point.

If I had to choose P4 board, that would be ASUS P5P800 or DFI LANPARTY 875P-T. No issues with caps, gigabit LAN and better performance.

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Reply 130 of 133, by Socket3

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-05-21, 10:59:

Core 2 support makes any overclocking on P4 only board a moot point.

Not really. Some of us overclock to see how far we can push a certain CPU, not for overall performance. Netburst architecture chips love to overclock and it's really fun! There's also an argument to be made for period correctness and the feeling a certain configuration can give you...

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-05-21, 10:59:

If I had to choose P4 board, that would be ASUS P5P800 or DFI LANPARTY 875P-T. No issues with caps, gigabit LAN and better performance.

DAMN that DFI board is sexy.... Now I need to have one! Well, I don't need to but I really really want one. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME SERPENT_RIDER!!???

I remember these boards. Back in the day when I had my shop they were a bit of a pain in the butt. Lots of them were DOA, and others suffered from suddenly failing I/O and or fan headers - not any fault of the board, mostly because lots of people were still using dumpster fire(tm) PSUs... Great performer tough and decent overclocker. My sister had one, and after she upgraded I fooled around with it quite a bit. Brings back memories, good and bad. Sold quite a few of these. Seems the reviews on newegg and amazon confirm my experiences 😁

The Asus P5P800 was pretty common in my neck of the woods. I sold loads of them to people who wanted a faster CPU but wanted to keep their AGP video card and in some cases RAM. An OK board, but nothing to write home about... What makes it special? I'm asking 'cause I have 2 or 3 of them in my mainboards cabinet.

Reply 131 of 133, by The Serpent Rider

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What makes it special?

ASUS BIOS "trick" that enabled full 875P performance on 865 boards.

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