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First post, by keenerb

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Looking for something that looks and feels similar to the ubiquitous generic beige full-size 101 key keyboards from the 90's, but wireless.

Any suggestions?

Reply 1 of 11, by mothergoose729

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Wireless? I don't think there is any.

But there are reproduction Model M keyboards... if you can live with a PS2 or USB wire.

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/UltraClassic

Reply 3 of 11, by mothergoose729

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Totally, if that satisfies your retro itch. Some cherry mx blues or reds will give you a perfectly satisfying feel. Finding the right housing might be harder... depending on how picky you are about your aesthetic.

The IBM XT keyboards used a special kind of switch that you can't buy these days... well except in used IBMs or the unicomp repos.

Reply 4 of 11, by cyclone3d

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You could always build yourself a converter and use whatever keyboard you want... provided it is a standard keyboard without a micro-controller built in.

https://youtu.be/jDR8IgouSMU

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/ … d_modifications

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 6 of 11, by Azarien

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mothergoose729 wrote:

Wireless? I don't think there is any.

But there are reproduction Model M keyboards... if you can live with a PS2 or USB wire.

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/UltraClassic

Right alt swapped with windows key? Non-standard key sizes in the bottom row? That's a bummer...

Reply 7 of 11, by mothergoose729

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Azarien wrote:
mothergoose729 wrote:

Wireless? I don't think there is any.

But there are reproduction Model M keyboards... if you can live with a PS2 or USB wire.

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/UltraClassic

Right alt swapped with windows key? Non-standard key sizes in the bottom row? That's a bummer...

So don't buy that model.

80's model M
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Unicomp classic
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Its some former IBM engineers who bought up the patents and tooling equipment. They are reproduction boards.

Reply 8 of 11, by Azarien

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mothergoose729 wrote:
Azarien wrote:

Right alt swapped with windows key? Non-standard key sizes in the bottom row? That's a bummer...

So don't buy that model.

Ah, now I understand. They wanted to preserve the original inferior placement of the right Alt key for whatever reason.
I assume they never tried to type in a language that actually makes use of AltGr.

Reply 9 of 11, by mothergoose729

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Azarien wrote:
mothergoose729 wrote:
Azarien wrote:

Right alt swapped with windows key? Non-standard key sizes in the bottom row? That's a bummer...

So don't buy that model.

Ah, now I understand. They wanted to preserve the original inferior placement of the right Alt key for whatever reason.
I assume they never tried to type in a language that actually makes use of AltGr.

If you choose their custom configuration you can go through a wizard and select your preferred language. I don't know what those layouts look like, but I imagine it would be closer to the layout you are used to. The pictures on their website are all US layout.

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/KBDCFG

Reply 10 of 11, by Fractal Fischer

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I picked up a Logitech G613 wireless mechanical keyboard a while back and it is nothing short of magical: https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/product/g613- … gaming-keyboard

I went through literally a dozen different wireless keyboards trying to find something vaguely competent for gaming with any semblance of reliability more than 3 feet from the sensor, and I can say without a doubt this is it. Everything else generally felt mushy and unresponsive with occasional signal cutouts and such, but I go back and forth between the G613 and wired mechanical keyboards on other systems through the course of each day and it feels and plays literally the same.

It's not buckling spring levels or retro or anything, but it feels like a real keyboard and works reliably anywhere in the room, and that's far more than I can say for every other wireless keyboard I've ever tried.

Reply 11 of 11, by Azarien

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mothergoose729 wrote:

The pictures on their website are all US layout.

A standard modern US layout is what I'm looking for: with Windows keys but not this weird win-alt swap.

I think I'll send them a photo of my current keyboard and ask how close they can get to this particular model.