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First post, by PcBytes

Posted on 2018-06-16, 08:33

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So,I've recently finished installing everything on the Pentium 3 restoration build from System Specs.

However, I am facing quite a problem I don't know how I could fix.

I am trying to edit BOOT.ini on the main drive (40GB, primary slave) running Win2k to show the 8GB drive (on which Windows 98 is installed) in the boot menu. Anytime I add the entry and set it how it should (from my point of view and using any guide over the internet), I can NOT get it to boot. I would either get a message saying "Could not boot, incorrect hardware configuration." (something along the lines, that is sure) or that ntoskrnl.exe is missing (this only happens if I select the 98 SE entry I created, the default 2k entry will boot just fine).

This is the IDE configuration if it helps:

Primary Master: Hitachi CDROM
Primary Slave: WD400BB - this is the Win2000 BOOT drive
Secondary Master: Maxtor 6E040L0 - STORAGE drive, not used for booting
Secondary Slave: WD80EB-28CGH2 - this is the Win98SE BOOT drive.

Any ideas how can I set up the boot.ini drive to boot the 98SE drive from the 2k boot menu? It must be in ARC style though (like multi(x)drive(y) etc.)

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 1 of 10, by derSammler

Posted on 2018-06-16, 08:51

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I don't think you can boot Win98 with this configuration, as you have drives that become C: before the hard disk that has Win98 on it. Try swapping Secondary Master and Secondary Slave.

Reply 2 of 10, by PcBytes

Posted on 2018-06-16, 09:22

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derSammler wrote:
I don't think you can boot Win98 with this configuration, as you have drives that become C: before the hard disk that has Win98 on it. Try swapping Secondary Master and Secondary Slave.

No dice.

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"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 3 of 10, by jesolo

Posted on 2018-06-16, 11:52

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Based on past experience, I suggest you install Windows 98SE first and then install Windows 2000.
If you want to avoid problems, I would configure your hardware as follows:
Primary Master - WD80EB-28CGH2
Primary Slave - WD400BB
Secondary Master - Hitachi CDROM
Secondary Slave - WD80EB-28CGH2

I have come across certain hard drives and CD-ROM drives that are picky as to how these are installed (master or slave, etc.) in a system but, from what it sounds to me, your setup is working fine.

Install Windows 98SE first on the Primary Master and then install Windows 2000 on the Primary Slave.
During installation of the latter, it will then create the boot.ini file on your C: drive and "point" to where your Windows 2000 system files are located.

If you format your Windows 2000 drive with NTFS, then Windows 98SE won't "see" the Windows 2000 drive and will simply not assign a drive letter for it.
Take note that drive letters will most likely be assigned differently between the two installations but, you can reassign some drives' letters from within Windows 2000.

Reply 4 of 10, by .legaCy

Posted on 2018-06-16, 15:58

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jesolo wrote:
Based on past experience, I suggest you install Windows 98SE first and then install Windows 2000. If you want to avoid problems, […]
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Based on past experience, I suggest you install Windows 98SE first and then install Windows 2000.
If you want to avoid problems, I would configure your hardware as follows:
Primary Master - WD80EB-28CGH2
Primary Slave - WD400BB
Secondary Master - Hitachi CDROM
Secondary Slave - WD80EB-28CGH2

I have come across certain hard drives and CD-ROM drives that are picky as to how these are installed (master or slave, etc.) in a system but, from what it sounds to me, your setup is working fine.

Not to mention some controllers that are finicky, on my 486dx4 the cd drive only worked as slave on the primary, being the single device as master on the secondary ide channel it didn't worked at all, but on other computers it worked as a master on the secondary ide.

Reply 5 of 10, by PcBytes

Posted on 2018-06-16, 17:39

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jesolo wrote:
Based on past experience, I suggest you install Windows 98SE first and then install Windows 2000. If you want to avoid problems, […]
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Based on past experience, I suggest you install Windows 98SE first and then install Windows 2000.
If you want to avoid problems, I would configure your hardware as follows:
Primary Master - WD80EB-28CGH2
Primary Slave - WD400BB
Secondary Master - Hitachi CDROM
Secondary Slave - WD80EB-28CGH2

I have come across certain hard drives and CD-ROM drives that are picky as to how these are installed (master or slave, etc.) in a system but, from what it sounds to me, your setup is working fine.

Install Windows 98SE first on the Primary Master and then install Windows 2000 on the Primary Slave.
During installation of the latter, it will then create the boot.ini file on your C: drive and "point" to where your Windows 2000 system files are located.

If you format your Windows 2000 drive with NTFS, then Windows 98SE won't "see" the Windows 2000 drive and will simply not assign a drive letter for it.
Take note that drive letters will most likely be assigned differently between the two installations but, you can reassign some drives' letters from within Windows 2000.

Thanks, this did the trick. I ended up reinstalling 2000 Server (I need DiSKPART, which Pro doesn't have) and on the first reboot the drive showed up. I did unplug the Maxtor (connected on the same IDE cable as the CDROM) to avoid any other unwanted stuff.

Right now it's near the end, at registering components.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 6 of 10, by brostenen

Posted on 2018-06-16, 17:46

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Why not give eXtended FDisk a go? This way, Win98 and 2K will not interfere with one another.
It comes with a graphical bootmenu, that even has booting floppy as a seperate menuitem.

http://xfdisk.sourceforge.net/

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Reply 7 of 10, by PcBytes

Posted on 2018-06-16, 18:00

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Fixed the problem already, and I want to keep the retro feel of having a Windows boot menu.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 8 of 10, by brostenen

Posted on 2018-06-16, 18:17

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PcBytes wrote:
Fixed the problem already, and I want to keep the retro feel of having a Windows boot menu.

Well... Retro-feel differs from person to person.
This (in the image below) was what we were used to have, when Os/2 was the new thing.
That would be in the first half of the 90's, before the release of any Win9x operating system.

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Reply 9 of 10, by .legaCy

Posted on 2018-06-16, 18:49

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brostenen wrote:
Why not give eXtended FDisk a go? This way, Win98 and 2K will not interfere with one another.
It comes with a graphical bootmenu, that even has booting floppy as a seperate menuitem.

http://xfdisk.sourceforge.net/

It just for me or all the download links are broken?

Reply 10 of 10, by brostenen

Posted on 2018-06-17, 15:29

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.legaCy wrote:
brostenen wrote:
Why not give eXtended FDisk a go? This way, Win98 and 2K will not interfere with one another.
It comes with a graphical bootmenu, that even has booting floppy as a seperate menuitem.

http://xfdisk.sourceforge.net/

It just for me or all the download links are broken?

You can always find it on Hirens or Ultimate Boot CD. (that is were I get it from)

Or a quick google gives:
https://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/download.php

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