Can you specify a bit more?

* LCD or CRT
* Inputs: VGA, DVI, HDMI

Damn 🤣 sorry! noob mistake.

LCD / VGA

Don't mean to "hijack" the thread but I'm also interested in this. What about models including both DVI & VGA? What range should we be looking for as far as response time? 5ms seems common.

mzry wrote:

Damn 🤣 sorry! noob mistake.

LCD / VGA

Well nice blacks in flat panels i only seem in oled screens and i never seem one 4:3 oled display.
There some high end 20" crt that supports 1600x1200.
But for older LCD i don't think that the black levels would even compare to a nice crt.

The alternative is to find a widescreen LCD with a good 4:3 mode. you would get black bars down the sides but potentially a much better PQ due to newer panels.

When comparing LCD to CRT it’s not so simple to say CRT has better blacks, CRTs have great on/off contrast but poor ANSI contrast compared to LCDs. With bright material and a small portion of black LCD does better, with dark material and a lot of black on the screen CRT is better.

But for older LCD i don't think that the black levels would even compare to a nice crt.

That's long running myth.

If you take a photo in ambient light things aren't gonna look all that favorable, reflections and the light itself making phosphors glow (try turning light on and off for a second in a dark room and then look at the screen, you'll see a faint glow for a little bit). It doesn't help when the brightness setting is off or acceleration voltage drifted over time(this one needs the monitor to be opened so it can be readjusted). LCDs with backlight that is partitioned can acthieve decent contrast, but you'll still see big glow around brighter parts due to the partitions not being very small (several square centimeters at minimum).

crt is feflecting the surrounding
check the black in the shadow of the frame at the top

The Serpent Rider wrote:

But for older LCD i don't think that the black levels would even compare to a nice crt.

That's long running myth.

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No thats not a myth, it just require basic knowledge of the "inner working" of the monitor.
The back light of the lcd isn't totally blocked by the lcd black making it not as deep as it could be.
Just grab an ips panel that is everywhere and compare it to an amoled and you will see what i'm talking about.
This picture the glare of the crt glass is reflecting the light, probably the lcd monitor have a matte coating on the glass giving this illusion.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

That's long running myth.

Although your statement is far from being wrong, this particular picture just doesn't do it justice. It's an either very bad photo, or a wrongly configured CRT monitor.

More light - LCD is better; less light - CRT is better. Glass is not the main problem here.

I like the old Dell Ultrasharp 1908FP as far as 4:3 LCDs go.

Has DVI and VGA. Resolution is 1280x1024

I also have an IBM 20" that goes to 1600x1200 but I haven't compared it to the Dell yet.

Yes its a terrible example. With that kind of example CRT should do well as there are lots of dark bits. A better example with be a chequered board of equual size white and black squares, i.e. something that shows ANSI contrast. A typical LCD can achieve 500:1 or better, A CRT is more like 50:1.

https://www.testufo.com/
Nice site for benchmarking monitors

Common good 4:3 CRT 100hz refresh rate, better at multiple resolutions(heavier games you can reduce the resolution and enjoy better framerates and it will still look nice)
Common good 4:3 LCD 75hz at it's best, scalling usually looks like shit(or black bars).

Modern gaming monitors usually will fit nice, i will post some pics of some resolutions and games on my BenQ XL2720Z.

I have a Dell 2007FP which is a 20" 1600x1200 LCD and looks good with VGA. It also has composite/S-Vid inputs which I have never tried and DVI input which results in a dark picture (could be a malfunction, I don't know if they all do this)

My other LCD is a Planar PL2010 which is brighter but has slower response time and looks blurry with VGA signal.

It should be noted that 1280x1024 monitors are 5:4 and not 4:3. 1280x960 monitor would be 4:3 but those seem to be rare, like 1600x1200, 1920x1440 and 2048x1536 are. The few I have seen always go for a lot of money...

I'm using a Benq G2400W, which is a 16:10 24 inch LCD monitor, but it has a handy 1:1 aspect ratio scaler built in. It also has very little input lag and no noticeable motion blur.

At 1920x1200, it scales 1600x1200 nicely

Similar thread here. Good 4:3 LCD Monitor

bakemono wrote:

I have a Dell 2007FP which is a 20" 1600x1200 LCD and looks good with VGA. It also has composite/S-Vid inputs which I have never tried and DVI input which results in a dark picture (could be a malfunction, I don't know if they all do this)

It's a malfunction (whether of your monitor, cable or video card - I don't know), or maybe you did not have the Brightness/Contrast configured identically. I have a 2007FP and there are no brightness differences between DVI and VGA.