VOGONS


First post, by aries-mu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Hey guys,

anybody has any idea if the Promise Technology FastTrak66/Ultra66 Ultra 66 ATA/66 IDE PCI Raid Card is going to work under:
• MS-DOS 6.22
• Windows for Workgroup 3.11
• Boot old Pentium 60 (Compaq Deskpro XL60) and Pentium 90 (Compaq Prolinea 590) computers?

If Promise has no drivers for this under DOS and WFW3.11, would any "generic" ATA 66 bus master driver be available and work smoothly?

Thanks!

They said therefore to him: Who are you?
Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you

Reply 1 of 11, by tpowell.ca

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

It'll work no problem under all those conditions.
No drivers needed for DOS, that's the Promise promise. 🤣

For the other OSs, just go to the promise website to download the latest drivers.
Not sure about windows 3.11, but it'll work without the drivers.

  • Merlin: MS-4144, AMD5x86-160 32MB, 16GB CF, ZIP100, Orpheus, GUS, S3 VirgeGX 2MB
    Tesla: GA-6BXC, VIA C3 Ezra-T, 256MB, 120GB SATA, YMF744, GUSpnp, Quadro2
    Newton: K6XV3+/66, AMD K6-III+500, 256MB, 32GB SSD, AWE32, Voodoo3

Reply 2 of 11, by aries-mu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
tpowell.ca wrote:
It'll work no problem under all those conditions. No drivers needed for DOS, that's the Promise promise. :lol: […]
Show full quote

It'll work no problem under all those conditions.
No drivers needed for DOS, that's the Promise promise. 🤣

For the other OSs, just go to the promise website to download the latest drivers.
Not sure about windows 3.11, but it'll work without the drivers.

wow fantastic! That's a great promise 🤣!!!!! definitely

Thanks so much!!!

They said therefore to him: Who are you?
Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you

Reply 3 of 11, by NJRoadfan

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

The cards are fast under DOS too. Unlike the BIOS code for onboard controllers, the Promise ROM enables UDMA transfer modes for all connected devices by default.

Reply 4 of 11, by aries-mu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
NJRoadfan wrote:

The cards are fast under DOS too. Unlike the BIOS code for onboard controllers, the Promise ROM enables UDMA transfer modes for all connected devices by default.

Hello NJRoadfan,

Thanks SO MUCH for your comment! I'm so sorry, a heck of a weekend and I forgot to reply!!!

That's very good to know, as the goal is to use an IDE to CF adapter and use UDMA CF cards!

Great!!

They said therefore to him: Who are you?
Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you

Reply 5 of 11, by Intel486dx33

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

I have some I tried to get to work with my Gateway 2000 486dx33 but could not get it to work with my cdrom.
So I had to use a sound card with cdrom controller.

Good luck.

There are some jumper settings on card and it might not work with your bios.
My gateway micronics mobo bios would not pick it up.

Reply 6 of 11, by aries-mu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Intel486dx33 wrote:

Good luck.

There are some jumper settings on card and it might not work with your bios.
My gateway micronics mobo bios would not pick it up.

Hi Intel486dx33 (a DX 33 was my very first "personal" personal computer! 😀 ).

Thanks!

Jumpers on the Promise card or sound card? Which one do you mean?

What wouldn't your mobo bios pick up?

Thanks again

They said therefore to him: Who are you?
Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you

Reply 7 of 11, by tpowell.ca

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Intel486dx33 wrote:
I have some I tried to get to work with my Gateway 2000 486dx33 but could not get it to work with my cdrom. So I had to use a s […]
Show full quote

I have some I tried to get to work with my Gateway 2000 486dx33 but could not get it to work with my cdrom.
So I had to use a sound card with cdrom controller.

Good luck.

There are some jumper settings on card and it might not work with your bios.
My gateway micronics mobo bios would not pick it up.

This is normal since it acts like an intelligent controller (imagine a RAID controller with RAID disabled) that standard DOS CD-ROM drivers cannot interface with, and nor can the BIOS. In the BIOS just set the drives as none, and disable the secondary integrated controller. Connect the CD-ROM to the Primary on-board controller and you're all set.
Some add-on controllers even come with their own CD-ROM drivers for DOS to resolve this exact issue such as some of the Silicon Image controllers.

  • Merlin: MS-4144, AMD5x86-160 32MB, 16GB CF, ZIP100, Orpheus, GUS, S3 VirgeGX 2MB
    Tesla: GA-6BXC, VIA C3 Ezra-T, 256MB, 120GB SATA, YMF744, GUSpnp, Quadro2
    Newton: K6XV3+/66, AMD K6-III+500, 256MB, 32GB SSD, AWE32, Voodoo3

Reply 9 of 11, by tpowell.ca

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
aries-mu wrote:

Man you know everything, thanks!

I thought I knew a lot.... until I found Vogons. 😊

Its funny how little people know about computers, how they actually work, and yet think they know everything.
Having worked in different computer stores in my younger years and hearing coworkers say anything to customers just to sell a piece of high-priced hardware. 😢

Unfortunately the same can be said about cars. In fact, its much much worse.

  • Merlin: MS-4144, AMD5x86-160 32MB, 16GB CF, ZIP100, Orpheus, GUS, S3 VirgeGX 2MB
    Tesla: GA-6BXC, VIA C3 Ezra-T, 256MB, 120GB SATA, YMF744, GUSpnp, Quadro2
    Newton: K6XV3+/66, AMD K6-III+500, 256MB, 32GB SSD, AWE32, Voodoo3

Reply 10 of 11, by aries-mu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Yeah, same feeling here 🤣!

Wow, about the coworkers thing, I never thought about that!!!

They said therefore to him: Who are you?
Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you

Reply 11 of 11, by Intel486dx33

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
tpowell.ca wrote:
Intel486dx33 wrote:
I have some I tried to get to work with my Gateway 2000 486dx33 but could not get it to work with my cdrom. So I had to use a s […]
Show full quote

I have some I tried to get to work with my Gateway 2000 486dx33 but could not get it to work with my cdrom.
So I had to use a sound card with cdrom controller.

Good luck.

There are some jumper settings on card and it might not work with your bios.
My gateway micronics mobo bios would not pick it up.

This is normal since it acts like an intelligent controller (imagine a RAID controller with RAID disabled) that standard DOS CD-ROM drivers cannot interface with, and nor can the BIOS. In the BIOS just set the drives as none, and disable the secondary integrated controller. Connect the CD-ROM to the Primary on-board controller and you're all set.
Some add-on controllers even come with their own CD-ROM drivers for DOS to resolve this exact issue such as some of the Silicon Image controllers.

That makes cents. Thanks, I could not get the promise to work with dos cdrom drivers. So I settled for a cheap sound card with cdrom controller.