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First post, by walterg74

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Hi all,

I was looking for a Pentium II 450, and a fellow member of a facebook group offered me one.

I purchased it, and I received it today. However, when I look at the case the lettering says: pentium III... 😲

I asked the seller about it, and he says he tested it before sending to make sure, and it boots up as a PII as yu can see in the attachments.

Does anyone know what’s going on/how this could be..?

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Reply 2 of 17, by darry

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Try running CPU-Z or another such utility. The casing on the CPU may have been exchanged or the BIOS might be misdetecting, but the CPUID as detected by software should be reliable.

Reply 5 of 17, by dionb

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Why? A P3-450 will work at least as well as a P2-450 in absolutely everything. Only difference is the SSE1 instructions, which are an improvement (if almost never used by period software). I have both and the only difference I notice is the cooler (the P2 has a huge passive heatsink, the P3 a noisy little fan).

Reply 6 of 17, by Katmai500

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The most recent BIOS update for the RC440BX board is from 2000: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/914 … -?product=50524

There's a chance you could update the BIOS to recognize the PIII before returning it.

Reply 7 of 17, by walterg74

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Katmai500 wrote:

The most recent BIOS update for the RC440BX board is from 2000: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/914 … -?product=50524

There's a chance you could update the BIOS to recognize the PIII before returning it.

Ok, I could do that. But that still will not change the fact I wanted the 450 PII and this is a PIII? 😀

Reply 8 of 17, by walterg74

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dionb wrote:

Why? A P3-450 will work at least as well as a P2-450 in absolutely everything. Only difference is the SSE1 instructions, which are an improvement (if almost never used by period software). I have both and the only difference I notice is the cooler (the P2 has a huge passive heatsink, the P3 a noisy little fan).

Imguess just because Imwanted to build one of each PI, PII, PIII machines with the actual processors

Reply 9 of 17, by Errius

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I think Katmais run hotter than Deschutes of the same frequency?

I have a 550 MHz PIII which is a little furnace. I had to remove it from one of my builds because of the heat.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 10 of 17, by BinaryDemon

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Errius wrote:

I think Katmais run hotter than Deschutes of the same frequency?

I have a 550 MHz PIII which is a little furnace. I had to remove it from one of my builds because of the heat.

Hah. I understand the desire to be period correct, but even the bios sees it as P2. I'd call it good enough. 😀

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Reply 11 of 17, by PARKE

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You could try this:

For Intel® Processor Frequency ID Utility
Intel® Processor Frequency ID Utility Bootable version [BFID_X25.EXE]
Version: 7.2 (Latest) Date: 11/15/2004

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/308 … XE-?product=672

The PII "should" be identified as Family 6 / Model 5 and the Pentium III as Family 6 / Model 7

Reply 12 of 17, by walterg74

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BinaryDemon wrote:
Errius wrote:

I think Katmais run hotter than Deschutes of the same frequency?

I have a 550 MHz PIII which is a little furnace. I had to remove it from one of my builds because of the heat.

Hah. I understand the desire to be period correct, but even the bios sees it as P2. I'd call it good enough. 😀

Yes, but *I’d* know... 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁

Reply 15 of 17, by stamasd

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oeuvre wrote:

tomato/tomato

I thought that was not a slot 1 motherboard.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 17 of 17, by lordmogul

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Could also remove the shroud and look at the chip directly. They got a print of the batch number that you can trace back

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