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Reply 120 of 172, by imi

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Horun wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:59:

added: I guess the next logical question is How many of those 2010 boards and cpu are still working ? 😁

my i7 920 retired in 2015 and got upgraded to a 6-core Xeon X5690 and from 3x2 to 3x4GB DDR-1600 CL8 all on the same Asus P6T board.
this has so far been my longest running system which I used over 9 years as my main rig and now continues to live as my go to Windows 7 PC 😀

9 years on the same platform, same motherboard even, just shows you how little was happening in the PC market due to intels dominance, and then came Ryzen 😀
I had a very short episode of X99 that I had many problems with before finally upgrading to Threadripper at the start of 2019.

Reply 121 of 172, by The Serpent Rider

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you how little was happening in the PC market due to intels dominance

Intel dominance has nothing to do with it really. The writing was on the wall, when first dual core CPUs appeared, it was a "cheap" way to improve stagnating performance.

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Reply 122 of 172, by flupke11

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1990 first pc experience at a friend's house on (probably) a 286 with a huge screen (in my recollection), played an athletics game and chess.
2000 Celeron 533 on a slocket P2L97, Creative TNT2 M64, Creative DXR2 DVD. Rock solid multimedia, and student film night around the 17" CRT.
2010 Intel Q9450 on Asus P5Q workstation. Not sure which GPU I had originally.
2020 Ryzen 3900x replaced the trusty 3770k.

Reply 123 of 172, by DosFreak

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Feb 11 2003
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5-2-2007 to 6-8-2010
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6-8-2010 to 8-22-2016
i7 930@4011MHz

8-22-2016-possibly end of this year
i7-6700k

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-C … 7-930/3502vsm79

So

Intel
Intel
Amd
Intel
Amd
Amd
Intel
Intel
Intel

Will it be Intel or Amd next time, stay tuned!
I did buy a AMD EPYC 7351P for my server a year ago and it's been stable

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Reply 124 of 172, by Bruninho

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DosFreak wrote on 2020-07-13, 20:09:
Intel Intel Amd Intel Amd Amd Intel Intel Intel […]
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Intel
Intel
Amd
Intel
Amd
Amd
Intel
Intel
Intel

Will it be Intel or Amd next time, stay tuned!
I did buy a AMD EPYC 7351P for my server a year ago and it's been stable

I think your next will be an ARM cpu 😜 j/k!

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Reply 125 of 172, by jondoom

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In 2000 I had
Compaq Presario
K6-2 500mhz
512mb SDRAM
Trident Blade graphics 16mb

In 2010 I had
C2D e6750 @ 3.4ghz
Abit IP35-E
2gb Corsair xms ddr2 800mhz
PNY GTX470

Today I have
Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4.2ghz
Biostar X370GT5
16gb G.Skill ddr4 3000mhz
Powercolor RX5700XT Red Dragon

There were other PC's before and in the middle of those, as well as many different video cards, but these are the 10 year apart builds.

Reply 126 of 172, by DosFreak

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Bruninho wrote on 2020-07-13, 21:42:
DosFreak wrote on 2020-07-13, 20:09:
Intel Intel Amd Intel Amd Amd Intel Intel Intel […]
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Intel
Intel
Amd
Intel
Amd
Amd
Intel
Intel
Intel

Will it be Intel or Amd next time, stay tuned!
I did buy a AMD EPYC 7351P for my server a year ago and it's been stable

I think your next will be an ARM cpu 😜 j/k!

If it can run all my existing software that my current processors can with better performance and no compatibility issues or side-effects and without having to jump through more hoops to get the software running then sure.

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Reply 127 of 172, by debs3759

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I've been using an A8-3870K since they came out in December 2011.

Been using an i7-6700K since august 2015.

I hope to be buying a Ryzen R9 3950X (or the next gen, if out by then) later this year (this will replace the FM1 system, and will probably relegate the i7 to a folding PC)

Reply 128 of 172, by foil_fresh

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2010 - was running a core2duo and geforce 8800 gts (got an i5 2500k in 2011 as well as 2x gtx570s in sli)
2020 - ryzen 3700x and GTX1080

my x99 mobo died late '19 which was running an i7 5820k since 2014 and i guarantee i'd be using it still if it didnt die.

Reply 129 of 172, by Swiego

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2010 was an i7-920. I still have that system and it feels relevant even today, although a bit of a space heater to be sure. A couple of years ago I upgraded it to a X5680 just to see what that would be like, as part of standing the system up as video capture station.

2020 is a ThreadRipper 3960x, which feels like it'll have the same legs the original Nehalem processors did; it does everything well and I absolutely love it.

Reply 130 of 172, by shamino

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2010: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 with Phenom2 X2-555, unlocked and overclocked to 3x3.6GHz.
Running Windows XP

2020: Dell Precision T1600 Xeon E3-1245
Running Windows 7

For the moment that Dell is probably my "main" PC, but the old AM3 can take it's place again at any time. It's performance is fine for almost anything.
I bought the Dell as an HTPC-ish gaming machine, and it will go back to that role if I make new arrangements for a TV to hook it up to.

Reply 132 of 172, by nd22

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1998: AMD K6-2 400mhz with 32mb of RAM upgraded later to 64mb, S3 4mb on a no-name VIA MVP3 motherboard running Windows 98SE
2000: Duron 750mhz with 64mb of RAM upgraded later to 128mb, geforce 256sdram 32mb on a Lucky star K7VAT motherboard running Windows 98SE- unstable as hell because of the low quality board
2002: Duron 1300mhz with 256mb of RAM upgraded later to 512mb, same geforce 256mb because i was too poor to afford a new video card having spent most of the money on DDRAM; on an Abit KR7A motherboard that I still have running Windows ME. This was the first system really responsive and fast! No crashes, no slowdowns just working fine!
2004: Athlon 64 3200mhz with 512mb of RAM upgraded later to 1gb, geforce 6600gt on an Abit KV8 PRO motherboard that I still have running Windows XP. It was the really fast for its time however it was the last with AGP!
2006: E6400 with 2gb of RAM upgraded later to 4gb, geforce 7600gt on an Abit AW9D-MAX that I still have running Windows XP. It was the WOW moment for me, crazy fast, the first when I could maxed out Battlefield 2!
2008: E8400 with 4gb of RAM upgraded later to 8gb on a MSI P45 platinum that I still have running Windows Vista. I did not encountered any of the problems that other peoples had with Vista; it simply worked and it is working today.
2011 January - present: 2600k with 16gb of RAM on Asus P67 deluxe with gtx 960 - simply the best....

Reply 133 of 172, by Socket3

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Horun wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:59:

I do remember the early I7 being very poor in performance compared to the latter Quad-Core's so never went that way, waited until i7-3770 came out a few years later in 2012, and still have that one on a Intel board too.

Really? In 2009 I switched for a Q9550 to a i7 920 and the difference was night and day. The i7 not only felt twice as fast, but it overclocked a lot better too, despite being on the same manufacturing process. Perhaps it depends on what you used your pc for...

gaffa2002 wrote on 2020-07-13, 14:44:
In 2010 I had: i7 950 6GB RAM Geforce GTX680 Windows 7 Pro […]
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In 2010 I had:
i7 950
6GB RAM
Geforce GTX680
Windows 7 Pro

That can't be right. The GTX 680 came out in spring 2012.

Reply 134 of 172, by dr_st

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Socket3 wrote on 2020-07-14, 14:24:

Really? In 2009 I switched for a Q9550 to a i7 920 and the difference was night and day. The i7 not only felt twice as fast, but it overclocked a lot better too, despite being on the same manufacturing process. Perhaps it depends on what you used your pc for...

The manufacturing process doesn't matter. Core i3/i5/i7 was a completely new architecture compared to the Core 2 (Duo/Quad) and was giving better performance. Intel has been largely following the tick-tock scheme those days, where one generation would introduce a new architecture, the next one would shrink the existing architecture. The performance gains were typically by the architecture changes, whereas the process shrink would only give you the same performance for lower power.

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Reply 135 of 172, by Bruninho

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DosFreak wrote on 2020-07-14, 00:41:
Bruninho wrote on 2020-07-13, 21:42:

I think your next will be an ARM cpu 😜 j/k!

If it can run all my existing software that my current processors can with better performance and no compatibility issues or side-effects and without having to jump through more hoops to get the software running then sure.

I can relate. I think the same thing - except that if the performance is the same or better, and if I can run all my software/games on it, I will for sure get a computer with an ARM cpu.

I have never had an AMD computer so I can't give an opinion about them. From the intel 386 cpus until today, I have only used intel computers, except at university where I had to take some advertsing design classes with a PowerPC G5 (or was it G3? I can't remember) iMac. I can remember the struggle to run Adobe Photoshop on it.

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Reply 136 of 172, by Socket3

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dr_st wrote on 2020-07-14, 16:58:
Socket3 wrote on 2020-07-14, 14:24:

Really? In 2009 I switched for a Q9550 to a i7 920 and the difference was night and day. The i7 not only felt twice as fast, but it overclocked a lot better too, despite being on the same manufacturing process. Perhaps it depends on what you used your pc for...

The manufacturing process doesn't matter. Core i3/i5/i7 was a completely new architecture compared to the Core 2 (Duo/Quad) and was giving better performance. Intel has been largely following the tick-tock scheme those days, where one generation would introduce a new architecture, the next one would shrink the existing architecture. The performance gains were typically by the architecture changes, whereas the process shrink would only give you the same performance for lower power.

Yes, my point exactly. Regarding the fab process I was replying to some users who used this as a reason to not upgrade. Specifically this converastion:

Horun wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:59:
I do remember the early I7 being very poor in performance compared to the latter Quad-Core's so never .... *snip* […]
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I do remember the early I7 being very poor in performance compared to the latter Quad-Core's so never .... *snip*

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:03:

I don't see any "challenge" after Core 2 Quad 45nm release.

I agree ! Whether a Q9650 or i7-930 is still 45nm tech.
added: I guess the next logical question is How many of those 2010 boards and cpu are still working ? 😁

Reply 137 of 172, by imi

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if you were doing anything more than gaming the i7 was definitely superior.

it's often the case that games don't really take advantage of new processor generations, same thing happened with ryzen too.

Reply 138 of 172, by DosFreak

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Horun wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:59:
Hmm really have to think because 2010 (ten years ago) was an odd year and cannot recall the exact at that time. Know I had an As […]
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Hmm really have to think because 2010 (ten years ago) was an odd year and cannot recall the exact at that time. Know I had an Asrock Penryn1600 in late 2008 and that I upped the cpu from Intel e6600 to a Intel Q9650 a few years later (still have both running!). I do remember the early I7 being very poor in performance compared to the latter Quad-Core's so never went that way, waited until i7-3770 came out a few years later in 2012, and still have that one on a Intel board too.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-07-13, 02:03:

I don't see any "challenge" after Core 2 Quad 45nm release.

I agree ! Whether a Q9650 or i7-930 is still 45nm tech.
added: I guess the next logical question is How many of those 2010 boards and cpu are still working ? 😁

Dunno about 2010 but my 2007 motherboard still going strong and has been used daily since then 24/7 until 2016 as a server at home. Now used for game testing.

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.87GHZ FSB:431MHZ @ 1.35000v
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900A LED Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler Replaced fan with Noctua NF-P14 FLX 140mm Case cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte X38-DQ6
Memory: 16GB DDR2 F2-6400CL5D-8GBPQ @ 862Mhz CL5-6-6-17 @1.8v
GPU 1: Zotac Geforce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP! Extreme GDDR5 ZT-90507-10B PCIe
GPU 2: Quadro FX 1300 128MB PCIe
NIC: Realtek RTL8111 PCI-E Gigabit
Audio: Audigy 2 Platinum 6.1 SB0240 (9x-8.1)
Audio: Realtek (Windows 10)
Audio: Yamaha YMF724E-V DOS-XP (Possibly Vista-10 32bit)
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Reply 139 of 172, by Standard Def Steve

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Feels like it's been 10 years since I last saw this thread! I recently built a new machine, so here we go again.

Going back 20 years, and listing only my main machines (no HTPCs, laptops, etc):

2000: PIII-550
2002: PIII-S 1400 @ 1628MHz
2006: Opteron 185 @ 3GHz
2014: i7-4930K @ 4.5GHz
2020: Ryzen 9 3900X @ 4.3GHz

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Super P3: PIII-S @ 1.63 GHz/FSB155 | 2GB DDR-310 | 6800GT AGP | 500GB 7200 RPM
Super G4: 2x PowerPC 7455 @ 1.5 GHz | 2GB DDR-333 | 7800GS AGP | 300GB 10k RPM
Super G5: 4x PowerPC 970 @ 2.5 GHz | 16GB DDR2-533 | x1950XT PCIe | 512GB SSD