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Amd 5x86 ADZ vs W16GBC which best?

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First post, by Nemo1985

Posted on 2019-07-21, 18:41

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Hello everybody.
I have those 2 cpu, I was wondering what is the difference between the first and the second.
The ADZ has manufacturing date 962xxx (can't read because it's scratched) while the W16BGC has manufacturing date 9811GPB.
Another difference is that on the first one it mentions 3.45volt while the second has no information about the voltage.
Unlucky I can't try them (still looking for a 486 pci mb), which one should I keep?
Thanks

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Reply 1 of 14, by chrismeyer6

Posted on 2019-07-21, 20:09

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I would suggest keeping both use the best performing one as your daily driver and keep the other one as a spare/ diagnostic aid.

Reply 2 of 14, by derSammler

Posted on 2019-07-21, 20:45

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Both are the same. The BGC is a later model, but it's still the same CPU and rated for 105°C, just like the ADZ.

Reply 3 of 14, by Nemo1985

Posted on 2019-07-21, 21:06

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derSammler wrote:
Both are the same. The BGC is a later model, but it's still the same CPU and rated for 105°C, just like the ADZ.

Thanks, in your opinion since it is a later revision are there any chance it will be more overclockable?

Reply 4 of 14, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2019-07-21, 22:27

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it is a later revision are there any chance it will be more overclockable

In that particular case - no.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 5 of 14, by derSammler

Posted on 2019-07-22, 08:25

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Every single CPU is different. You can't tell how much overclockable it is until you tried. My own tries however had shown that the ADW overclocks better than the ADZ/BGC. But that is only true for the X5 CPUs in my collection.

Reply 6 of 14, by Nemo1985

Posted on 2019-07-22, 10:48

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Thank you all for the precious answers 😀

Reply 7 of 14, by kixs

Posted on 2019-07-22, 10:52

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About OC... you can never tell. I've tested around 30 5x86-133 cpus and best were ADZ. BGC and ADW were in the same boat.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 8 of 14, by Nemo1985

Posted on 2019-07-22, 11:31

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kixs wrote:
About OC... you can never tell. I've tested around 30 5x86-133 cpus and best were ADZ. BGC and ADW were in the same boat.

You are right, every cpu is different... despite of this there are batches that are usually better, unlucky I can't test them since I lack the mb, for now.

Reply 9 of 14, by alvaro84

Posted on 2019-07-22, 14:19

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kixs wrote:
About OC... you can never tell. I've tested around 30 5x86-133 cpus and best were ADZ. BGC and ADW were in the same boat.

After similar amount of 5x86s I have exactly one piece that runs ar 180 MHz - and it's an ADW. You can really never tell.

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Reply 10 of 14, by amadeus777999

Posted on 2019-07-22, 16:51

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Both BGCs I came across were 160mhz capable but so were the ADWs - they do look cool though.

Reply 11 of 14, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2019-08-08, 10:54

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BGC/ADZ are capable to work stable with just passive cooling (heatsink only). You can even overclock it to 160mhz.

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Reply 12 of 14, by pshipkov

Posted on 2019-08-08, 15:01

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I ran some tests recently and it looks like BGC is tiny bit faster than previous models clock to clock.
It was less than 1% but consistent in multiple tests.

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Reply 13 of 14, by derSammler

Posted on 2019-08-08, 15:10

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Less than 1% is most likely inaccuracy of measurement.

Reply 14 of 14, by pshipkov

Posted on 2019-08-08, 17:02

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That's what i thought first, but spent my time to dig into it.
It is more than just a "rounding error".
There is a difference. 😀

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