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Reply 640 of 664, by red-ray

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Camtheman wrote on 2020-09-11, 08:52:

Needless to say there's quite a bit missing. Can't read the bios date among many other things.

Thank you for the report and the BIOS date is missing as SIV does not have a VXD for Windows 9x, were you to boot Windows NT then the BIOS date should be reported. In general Windows 95 does not have many of the SetupAPI routines SIV needs and with NT4 or W98 SIV would do better. The other issue is that the system has IBM MicroChannel (MCA) rather than PCI and SIV has no MCA support at all. Looking at the CPUZ report you posted neither does CPUZ.

From checking https://www.geoffchappell.com/studies/windows … story/index.htm I suspect NT4 is the last version of Windows to support MCA, is it?

Reply 642 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-11, 19:03:

I'll be testing a DFI LanParty UT X58-T3eH8 once I get it.

OK, SIV does not have any explicit DFI LanParty UT X58-T3eH8 support so expect I will need to make adjustments for the ITE IT8718F SIO, it's also possible the system may have a PWM power controller, but won't know 'till I check the save file.

All the x58/Bloomfield/Gulftown support should be fine as I have an ASUS P6X58D Premium system.

Reply 643 of 664, by Camtheman

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red-ray wrote on 2020-09-11, 10:11:
Camtheman wrote on 2020-09-11, 08:52:

Needless to say there's quite a bit missing. Can't read the bios date among many other things.

Thank you for the report and the BIOS date is missing as SIV does not have a VXD for Windows 9x, were you to boot Windows NT then the BIOS date should be reported. In general Windows 95 does not have many of the SetupAPI routines SIV needs and with NT4 or W98 SIV would do better. The other issue is that the system has IBM MicroChannel (MCA) rather than PCI and SIV has no MCA support at all. Looking at the CPUZ report you posted neither does CPUZ.

From checking https://www.geoffchappell.com/studies/windows … story/index.htm I suspect NT4 is the last version of Windows to support MCA, is it?

I believe it is the last yes. IBM PS/2s have two BIOSes, one Advanced BIOS (for OS/2)and one Legacy for MS-DOS, 9x, etc. SIV would read the Legacy one I assume? Interesting stuff.

Reply 644 of 664, by red-ray

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Camtheman wrote on 2020-09-12, 12:45:

SIV would read the Legacy one I assume?

Were you to boot Windows NT 4 then SIV should read 128KB starting from physical address 0xE0000 and then search this for all the BIOS tables which on NT/XP systems are reported via Menu->Hardware->BIOS Tables->BIOS Tables. Ideally there would be "_DMI_" information, but I suspect the BIOS may be too old to have this, epically so given CPUZ did not report the motherboard name. On systems running NT then the save will generate both .TXT + a 128KB .DMI file and if I had the .DMI file I suspect I would be able to get SIV to report more about the system. Have you ever had Windows NT running on the system?

Reply 645 of 664, by Mumak

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Camtheman wrote on 2020-09-11, 08:52:
Tested this on my IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with the following specs: […]
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Tested this on my IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with the following specs:

Pentium 1 @ 66mhz
16 MB RAM
IBM XGA/2 1MB Graphics
IBM SCSI-2 "Corvette"
Adlib Clone card
3Com EtherLink III MCA

Needless to say there's quite a bit missing. Can't read the bios date among many other things.

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HWiNFO DOS version has MCA support. I'd be happy to get a report from that system.

Reply 647 of 664, by mastergamma12

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Here's the SIV results from the DFI LanParty UT X58-T3eH8 including a bios screenshot

file.php?mode=view&id=92378

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Reply 648 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-18, 00:08:

Here's the SIV results from the DFI LanParty UT X58-T3eH8 including a bios screenshot

Thank you for the save files and remembering the BIOS screen shot which made things easy. How does the attached SIV64X 5.52 DFILP-09 test SIV look to you please?

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Reply 649 of 664, by mastergamma12

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Here

file.php?mode=view&id=92395

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Reply 650 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-18, 07:20:

Here

All looks good and I have now released SIV 5.52 Beta-09 so please update.

Is your DFI x58 the very last DFI Lan Party that was made please?

Reply 651 of 664, by mastergamma12

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red-ray wrote on 2020-09-23, 19:06:
mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-18, 07:20:

Here

All looks good and I have now released SIV 5.52 Beta-09 so please update.

Is your DFI x58 the very last DFI Lan Party that was made please?

AFAIK it's either this or the P55 one, though AFAIK this can run a 980x or 990x but I'll confirm that once my 980x gets here so it may not be the last one but it could make it the most powerful one.

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Reply 652 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 00:51:

AFAIK this can run a 980x or 990x but I'll confirm that once my 980x gets here.

Thank you, looking at Menu->Hardware->BIOS Tables->BIOS Tables the DFI BIOS only contains the Intel (Gulftown) [B0] microcode, but my 980X is stepping [B1] so I guess it may depend on which stepping you get.

On my 980X system the Revision 001F µCode Dated 2018-05-08 get's used, as I recall I found a modified BIOS which contained the updated CPU µCode a couple of years ago and wonder if there is one for the DFI.

After a Google I found https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/me … s.246101/page-8

Reply 653 of 664, by mastergamma12

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red-ray wrote on 2020-09-24, 06:21:
Thank you, looking at Menu->Hardware->BIOS Tables->BIOS Tables the DFI BIOS only contains the Intel (Gulftown) [B0] microcode, b […]
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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 00:51:

AFAIK this can run a 980x or 990x but I'll confirm that once my 980x gets here.

Thank you, looking at Menu->Hardware->BIOS Tables->BIOS Tables the DFI BIOS only contains the Intel (Gulftown) [B0] microcode, but my 980X is stepping [B1] so I guess it may depend on which stepping you get.

On my 980X system the Revision 001F µCode Dated 2018-05-08 get's used, as I recall I found a modified BIOS which contained the updated CPU µCode a couple of years ago and wonder if there is one for the DFI.

After a Google I found https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/me … s.246101/page-8

I came across this

index.php?s=0311ef0034eee89d9674e4124e1cdc34&act=Attach&type=post&id=4490647

Looks promising if real.

And here's the link to where I got it

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3598408

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Reply 654 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 17:07:

Looks promising if real.

I suspect it is, but wonder which CPU µCode is being used. My guess is that the system will post with the 980X (when do you expect it?), but will not be using the latest CPU µCode unless you run Windows 10.

Reply 655 of 664, by mastergamma12

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red-ray wrote on 2020-09-24, 20:05:
mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 17:07:

Looks promising if real.

I suspect it is, but wonder which CPU µCode is being used. My guess is that the system will post with the 980X (when do you expect it?), but will not be using the latest CPU µCode unless you run Windows 10.

USPS says Monday but it looks like either tomorrow or saturday.

I'll check with SIV if it works.

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Reply 656 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 20:25:

I'll check with SIV if it works.

Comparing with my system which is as below yours does not have the latest Intel (Gulftown) [B1] + Intel (Bloomfield) [D0] CPU µCode .

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Reply 657 of 664, by mastergamma12

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red-ray wrote on 2020-09-25, 07:17:
Comparing with my system which is as below yours does not have the latest Intel (Gulftown) [B1] + Intel (Bloomfield) [D0] CPU µC […]
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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-24, 20:25:

I'll check with SIV if it works.

Comparing with my system which is as below yours does not have the latest Intel (Gulftown) [B1] + Intel (Bloomfield) [D0] CPU µCode .

file.php?id=92875

Well it works, I did a bios update to that Spectre/Meltdown one, SIV64 reports it's using the b1 microcode, I'll upload the stuff later.

Also the ram automatically runs at 1600 mhz now.

Also SIV thinks it's running at 2.93 like the W3540 but CPU Z and AIDA64 show 3.33ghz.

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Reply 658 of 664, by mastergamma12

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Here

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Reply 659 of 664, by red-ray

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-09-25, 16:49:

Here

To me it looks like the BIOS is setup to underclock your 980X, is this intentional?

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