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Reply 741 of 746, by red-ray

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weedeewee wrote on 2021-04-01, 19:58:

@ red-ray I've got an alpha multia UDB box. Do you already have the siv data for that?

Thank you for contacting me, as I recall the DEC Multia has a 233 MHz Alpha 21066 and I have never tried SIV on it so save files would be great. I think SIV32A.exe should run OK, but as the 21066 does not have BWX I guess time will tell.

I suspect once I get the save files I will be able to improve what SIV reports. Which OS does it have? SIV should be OK on NT4, but I usually test SIV32A on my DEC MiataGL Alpha 21164A (EV56) Windows 2000 Build 2072 RC1 system.

Reply 742 of 746, by weedeewee

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red-ray wrote on 2021-04-01, 20:10:
weedeewee wrote on 2021-04-01, 19:58:

@ red-ray I've got an alpha multia UDB box. Do you already have the siv data for that?

Thank you for contacting me and as I recall the DEC Multia has a 233 MHz Alpha 21066 and I have never tried SIV on it so save files would be great. I think SIV32A.exe should run OK, but as the 21066 does not have BWX I guess time will tell.

I suspect once I get the save files I will be able to improve what SIV reports. Which OS does it have? SIV should be OK on NT4, but I usually test SIV32A on my DEC MiataGL Windows 2000 Build 2072 RC1 system.

at the moment it doesn't really have any decent os install, since both 2"5 scsi hard drives I have, have started showing bad sectors, so I'll have to do a clean new install on either a sd2scsi device or a 4G Quantum UW scsi drive...
the 4G currently has a copy of the last failing hdd and is a debian upgraded to the latest officially available.
Now that I think of it, that would include finding out how to switch to the ARC firmware, write an NT alpha cd and install it or find the alpha 2k version... Should be fun 😀

Reply 743 of 746, by red-ray

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weedeewee wrote on 2021-04-01, 20:20:

Now that I think of it, that would include finding out how to switch to the ARC firmware, write an NT alpha cd and install it or find the alpha 2k version... Should be fun 😀

GIMF and I just found https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/rc-2 which is what I run on my DS20 (DP264G_tsunmp).

It was Oct-2015 when I last switched the firmware and can't remember how I did it. My Alphas have BIOS 5.71-R1 03/01/2000 19:48 + BIOS 5.70 07/20/1999 14:58 which I think are the latest available, but don't know about your system, looking at page 40 of the attached it seems easy. Does Re: Alpha hardware for Windows 2000 list it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Multia says it will run W2K and http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/computers/udb.html is worth a look.

When I installed RC1/RC2 before starting the install I advanced the date by 50 years, did the install and then reverted it as by doing this it stops Windows timing out after a while.

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Reply 744 of 746, by weedeewee

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red-ray wrote on 2021-04-01, 20:53:

GIMF and I just found https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-nt-2000/rc-2 which is what I run on my DS20 (DP264G_tsunmp).

It was Oct-2015 when I last switched the firmware and can't remember how I did it. My Alphas have BIOS 5.71-R1 03/01/2000 19:48 + BIOS 5.70 07/20/1999 14:58 which I think are the latest available, but don't know about your system. Does Re: Alpha hardware for Windows 2000 list it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Multia says it will run W2K and http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/computers/udb.html is worth a look.

When I installed RC1/RC2 before starting the install I advanced the date by 50 years, did the install and then reverted it as my doing this it stops Windows timing out after a while.

winworldpc is the site I was thinking of downloading it from ! So many old goodies to be found there.
I know I switched from ARC to srm 20 years ago, so the firmware definitely has both, as I think redhat used arc in the installation guidelines, while debian used srm
Though I never read anything about advancing the date 50 years.
I do recall while upgrading debian that at one point I had to update milo due to some code change and for another point in the upgrade, I had to skip the kernel because the framebuffer had a code error which caused it not to function.
Anyway
Thanks for the links ! Saves me to google for it or find the bookmarks I once made, maybe on a previous install, oh well.
When the machine is installed I'll send you the files.

Reply 745 of 746, by red-ray

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weedeewee wrote on 2021-04-01, 21:19:

Though I never read anything about advancing the date 50 years.

I can't remember where I read it and failed to find anything with Google 🙁

BTW how much memory does it have? I don't have a feel for how much is needed, but my PWS has 1.5GB and typically uses 180MB + 520MB in the system file cache.

Reply 746 of 746, by weedeewee

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red-ray wrote on 2021-04-01, 21:36:
weedeewee wrote on 2021-04-01, 21:19:

Though I never read anything about advancing the date 50 years.

I can't remember where I read it and failed to find anything with Google 🙁

BTW how much memory does it have? I don't have a feel for how much is needed, but my PWS has 1.5GB and typically uses 180MB + 520MB in the system file cache.

I upgraded it last year with 2x 64MB simms so together with the 2 12MB simms it should be 152 MB if memory serves me right which is just wonderful compared to the 40 MB it had before 😁
Should be enough to run NT 4 or a barebones 2k... I hope