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Reply 40 of 52, by The Serpent Rider

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Drivers which are not aware of AGP-to-PCI-E bridge probably won't work.

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Reply 41 of 52, by Warlord

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7x drivers the earlier one, are probably the best bet, nothing lower than 6x drivers are going to work as serpent rider said those are the earlyest ones that are agp/pci-e bridge aware. I was able to get 2001se to run on the card and finish but then something happened and on the 1st test 2001se car chase it started humming and then the fan would shut off and the video card would crash, so I think my card is bad. unlike the 6x series though the 7x series do not have lines in the INF for the card, Easyest way is to just copy those 2 lines from the 6x inf and paste them into the 7x.

Reply 42 of 52, by duga3

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Warlord wrote:

7x drivers the earlier one, are probably the best bet, nothing lower than 6x drivers are going to work as serpent rider said those are the earlyest ones that are agp/pci-e bridge aware. I was able to get 2001se to run on the card and finish but then something happened and on the 1st test 2001se car chase it started humming and then the fan would shut off and the video card would crash, so I think my card is bad. unlike the 6x series though the 7x series do not have lines in the INF for the card, Easyest way is to just copy those 2 lines from the 6x inf and paste them into the 7x.

Yeah the 71.84 drivers is what I wanted to test when I found out my install is belly up. According to your tests it should be the best probably, wanted to confirm it on all the games I have tested previously though. There could also be an issue with my machine if the same tests you did will fail for me, you never know. We will see after I find the time to reinstall everything 😒

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Reply 44 of 52, by j^aws

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So I found my PCX 5750 and PCX 5900. Can't locate the PCX 5950 and now I'm having serious doubts to its whereabouts... Hmm. I tried going back to my eBay buying history to give me a clue, but this only goes back to 2017 and nothing further.

In the meantime, here are pics of the NV35 based PCX 5900:

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I wonder what drivers I could use and how much it could overclock...

Reply 45 of 52, by Warlord

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Current thinking is modded 71.84 drivers updated with the strings from 6x series so it detects the card, but maybe your card will run on 6x series, but the fx1300 did not like 6x series drivers from what we gathered even though they worked we had issues launching games. I am curious to see how its compatibility is compared to the fx1300.

Reply 46 of 52, by j^aws

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Warlord wrote:

Current thinking is modded 71.84 drivers updated with the strings from 6x series so it detects the card, but maybe your card will run on 6x series, but the fx1300 did not like 6x series drivers from what we gathered even though they worked we had issues launching games. I am curious to see how its compatibility is compared to the fx1300.

Checked and the 6x series drivers officially support Win98 for the PCX 5900. I'm curious as well, especially being NV35 based. I've also found my X58 and X79 boards, but won't be able to test until I get my other DOS projects out of the way. This card is pencilled in for a future WIP build.

Reply 48 of 52, by HanJammer

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cyclone3d wrote on 2019-09-06, 14:55:
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No such thing as retro PCI-E.

So you wouldn't consider Geforce FX cards as retro?

General misconception is that "Retro" means old, when, well it's quite the opposite in fact.
I think only retro graphic cards were those discussed in one thread here on VOGONS (ISA, OAK chipset based).

PS: And PCI-E is not vintage either. PCI-E 1.0 was introduced in 2004, so 4 more years...

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Reply 49 of 52, by The Serpent Rider

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Early PCI-E are already considered vintage. Some are looking for cards like GeForce 6800 or Radeon X800 for universal Win9x/XP machine.

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Reply 50 of 52, by Warlord

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general consensus with these cards based on this thread and research was that becasue you cannot use 40.xx drivers with them than they are not considered viable for retro gaming. A few people think 40.xx drivers are even too new when it comes to direct3d compatibility on 9x. As Nvidia started messing up support after 45.xx Which is the driver version a lot of people like when using geforce4 cards on 98.

However if 60.xx-70.xx drivers on 98 work just fine for the games you want to play than they could be solid cards.

Reply 51 of 52, by The Serpent Rider

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BTW FX1300 could be potentially softmodded to PCX5900 via RivaTuner, if drivers are old enough. Although, from my experience with Quadro series cards, it's probably doesn't matter. At least if minor FPS differences don't bother you.

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