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Reply 180 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:10:
Sure. Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs hw-info-4094.jpg […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:03:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 12:01:

Sure, Looks quite good, but I can't find DIMM thermal sensors. Did I overlook it?

In the attached zip file, there should be the debug file and the htm report.

Please try again with: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4094.zip

Sure.
Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs
hw-info-4094.jpg

Thanks. Looks like there's some issue with the SPD mux, a problem might also be concurrent running of HWiNFO + SIV.
I did a few more updates, can you please try again: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4095.zip

Reply 181 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 14:29:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:10:
Sure. Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs hw-info-4094.jpg […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:03:

Sure.
Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs
hw-info-4094.jpg

Thanks. Looks like there's some issue with the SPD mux, a problem might also be concurrent running of HWiNFO + SIV.
I did a few more updates, can you please try again: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4095.zip

I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo.
Also that time
I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay.
debug info and report zipped attached

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Reply 182 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:14:
I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo. Also that time I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay. debug info a […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 14:29:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:10:

Sure.
Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs
hw-info-4094.jpg

Thanks. Looks like there's some issue with the SPD mux, a problem might also be concurrent running of HWiNFO + SIV.
I did a few more updates, can you please try again: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4095.zip

I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo.
Also that time
I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay.
debug info and report zipped attached

And also all memory modules listed now (except a few ones, which have a damaged SPD) 😀
Perfect, thanks for the testing and results!

Reply 183 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:14:
I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo. Also that time I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay. debug info a […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 14:29:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:10:

Sure.
Now there are temperatures for the first 32 DIMMs
hw-info-4094.jpg

Thanks. Looks like there's some issue with the SPD mux, a problem might also be concurrent running of HWiNFO + SIV.
I did a few more updates, can you please try again: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4095.zip

I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo.
Also that time
I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay.
debug info and report zipped attached

Could you please make one more try using: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4096.zip
I'd like to test one more improvement, but not sure if that will work as expected.

Reply 184 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:01:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:14:
I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo. Also that time I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay. debug info a […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 14:29:

Thanks. Looks like there's some issue with the SPD mux, a problem might also be concurrent running of HWiNFO + SIV.
I did a few more updates, can you please try again: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4095.zip

I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo.
Also that time
I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay.
debug info and report zipped attached

Could you please make one more try using: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4096.zip
I'd like to test one more improvement, but not sure if that will work as expected.

Nope, that's not good:

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Reply 185 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:31:
Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:01:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:14:
I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo. Also that time I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay. debug info a […]
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I confirm that SIV ran before hwinfo.
Also that time
I ran version 4095 and saw temperatures for all 64 DIMMs, yay.
debug info and report zipped attached

Could you please make one more try using: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4096.zip
I'd like to test one more improvement, but not sure if that will work as expected.

Nope, that's not good:
hw-info-4096.jpg

And this one? 😀 www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4097.zip

Reply 186 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:01:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:31:
Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:01:

Could you please make one more try using: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4096.zip
I'd like to test one more improvement, but not sure if that will work as expected.

Nope, that's not good:
hw-info-4096.jpg

And this one? 😀 www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4097.zip

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

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Reply 187 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:25:
Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:01:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:31:

Nope, that's not good:
hw-info-4096.jpg

And this one? 😀 www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4097.zip

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

It looks better, but the modules reported are duplicates and no thermal sensors. I think I'll stop experimenting and stick to what build 4095 did.

As for the wrong SPD, the problem is that some of your modules contain an invalid 1st byte in the SPD (0x04 instead of 0x92 expected). This might cause a problem in some programs, but as long as the BIOS recognizes all modules it's not critical. Perhaps you could use some tools that can overwrite/fix the SPD (i.e. Thaiphoon Burner) to fix this problem, but I think it's a bit unlikely they will support this Xeon machine. Alternatively you might try put those wrong modules into another machine and try to fix it there. Or if you really don't mind buying new ones then yes, go for it..

Reply 188 of 681, by vorob

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Sir sir... I've got another laptop with tremendous amount of bugs in HWINFO. IBM ThinkPad R60.

First of all it doesn't report any memory slots in summary windows. In detailed window it reports huge amount of ram slots while in reality its just 2 slots with 2x2gb ram
Then i'm getting this sensor warning. Anything can be done here?
And when i open sensor window i've got one section without titles, and second part with some wrong values like over 100C...

p.s. it is possible to control fans via some custom fan-made utility, any way to add this functionality here?

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Reply 189 of 681, by Mumak

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vorob wrote on 2020-03-02, 12:35:
Sir sir... I've got another laptop with tremendous amount of bugs in HWINFO. IBM ThinkPad R60. […]
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Sir sir... I've got another laptop with tremendous amount of bugs in HWINFO. IBM ThinkPad R60.

First of all it doesn't report any memory slots in summary windows. In detailed window it reports huge amount of ram slots while in reality its just 2 slots with 2x2gb ram
Then i'm getting this sensor warning. Anything can be done here?
And when i open sensor window i've got one section without titles, and second part with some wrong values like over 100C...

p.s. it is possible to control fans via some custom fan-made utility, any way to add this functionality here?

This machine blocks access to DIMM SPD memory, hence it's not possible to provide detailed module information. What you currently see is only the logical memory configuration, not physical modules.
That warning window is just a warning (self explained), you can disable it from appearing.
I will remove the invalid sensor values in the next build.

Reply 190 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:25:
Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:01:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:31:

Nope, that's not good:
hw-info-4096.jpg

And this one? 😀 www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4097.zip

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

Ready for yet another test? 😉 This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first time.
Since I haven't tried this before, I don't know if it will work. But if it does, we should be able to read additional memory parameters including the Memory Buffer temperatures.
Here the test build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4098.zip

Reply 191 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-02, 15:18:
Ready for yet another test? ;) This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:25:
Mumak wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:01:

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

Ready for yet another test? 😉 This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first time.
Since I haven't tried this before, I don't know if it will work. But if it does, we should be able to read additional memory parameters including the Memory Buffer temperatures.
Here the test build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4098.zip

Yes:
Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 😁

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There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new.

But joke aside, what should be shown additionally?

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Reply 192 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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My hwinfo try on the Compaq Proliant ML370:

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Impressive. So please add SPD Info 😁
Have to check what's missing, but looks really good

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Reply 193 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 20:33:
My hwinfo try on the Compaq Proliant ML370: hwinfo-ml370-main.JPG […]
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My hwinfo try on the Compaq Proliant ML370:
hwinfo-ml370-main.JPG

Impressive. So please add SPD Info 😁
Have to check what's missing, but looks really good

Thanks 😀
The problem with missing SPD is because this machine has ServerWorks OSB4 chip and it doesn't seem to have SMBus enabled, which is required to access SPD.
And since I don't have documentation for this chip, I don't know how to enable SMBus there 🙁
I'll get back to you regarding the issue on Xeon X7 shortly...

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Reply 194 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 20:14:
Yes: Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 :D hwinfo-5098-main.jpg There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new. […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-02, 15:18:
Ready for yet another test? ;) This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:25:

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

Ready for yet another test? 😉 This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first time.
Since I haven't tried this before, I don't know if it will work. But if it does, we should be able to read additional memory parameters including the Memory Buffer temperatures.
Here the test build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4098.zip

Yes:
Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 😁
hwinfo-5098-main.jpg
There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new.

But joke aside, what should be shown additionally?

Looks like the memory buffer access didn't work as I expected, moreover new bugs caused erratic SPD readout 🙁 This is such a crazy machine...
Could you please try this build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4099.zip

Reply 195 of 681, by vorob

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I think ACPI: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 and IBM ThinkPad EC: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 report the same data, but second thing makes some errors. I was looking at second sensor in OSD and sometimes GPU temperature were 128C, and cooler RPM was much more then i could be.

I used another tool to compare data, and looks like that in ACPI: LENOVO ThinkPad R60

Temp 1 - APS
Temp 3- GPU
Temp 2- CRD
Sad thing is that fan rpm is in "broken" sensor part...

Other things are not important from my point of view.

What is LENOVO 946154G (Intel (G)MCH) with no data?

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Reply 196 of 681, by Mumak

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vorob wrote on 2020-03-03, 12:41:
I think ACPI: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 and IBM ThinkPad EC: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 report the same data, but second thing makes some err […]
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I think ACPI: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 and IBM ThinkPad EC: LENOVO ThinkPad R60 report the same data, but second thing makes some errors. I was looking at second sensor in OSD and sometimes GPU temperature were 128C, and cooler RPM was much more then i could be.

I used another tool to compare data, and looks like that in ACPI: LENOVO ThinkPad R60

Temp 1 - APS
Temp 3- GPU
Temp 2- CRD
Sad thing is that fan rpm is in "broken" sensor part...

Other things are not important from my point of view.

What is LENOVO 946154G (Intel (G)MCH) with no data?

The "Intel (G)MCH" item is the chipset sensor, but it doesn't provide valid data on this system.

Reply 197 of 681, by Mumak

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 20:14:
Yes: Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 :D hwinfo-5098-main.jpg There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new. […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-02, 15:18:
Ready for yet another test? ;) This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 18:25:

That looks good again.

What do you think about the DIMMs with wrong SPD data? Anything to worry about?

Ready for yet another test? 😉 This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first time.
Since I haven't tried this before, I don't know if it will work. But if it does, we should be able to read additional memory parameters including the Memory Buffer temperatures.
Here the test build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4098.zip

Yes:
Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 😁
hwinfo-5098-main.jpg
There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new.

But joke aside, what should be shown additionally?

Meanwhile I have 2 new builds, would be great if you could test both and provide results as I'm not sure which method will work better. Here they are:
- www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4099.zip
- www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4100.zip
Sorry for so many requests, but it's difficult to develop/test such system remotely. We (I and Ray) were already considering buying such machine, but none of us is yet keen on spending several hundreds of EUR just for a couple of days of testing...

Reply 198 of 681, by CoffeeOne

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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-03, 13:14:
Meanwhile I have 2 new builds, would be great if you could test both and provide results as I'm not sure which method will work […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 20:14:
Yes: Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 :D hwinfo-5098-main.jpg There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new. […]
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Mumak wrote on 2020-03-02, 15:18:

Ready for yet another test? 😉 This will be a special one - attempting to access the 7500 Scalable Memory Buffers for the first time.
Since I haven't tried this before, I don't know if it will work. But if it does, we should be able to read additional memory parameters including the Memory Buffer temperatures.
Here the test build: www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4098.zip

Yes:
Seems to be nearly as good as 4095 😁
hwinfo-5098-main.jpg
There are special characters in the DIMM names, that's new.

But joke aside, what should be shown additionally?

Meanwhile I have 2 new builds, would be great if you could test both and provide results as I'm not sure which method will work better. Here they are:
- www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4099.zip
- www.hwinfo.com/beta/hwi64_623_4100.zip
Sorry for so many requests, but it's difficult to develop/test such system remotely. We (I and Ray) were already considering buying such machine, but none of us is yet keen on spending several hundreds of EUR just for a couple of days of testing...

for both versions debug and report in htm

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Reply 199 of 681, by Mumak

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Some good news for elder geeks 😀
HWiNFO32 version 6.23 Build 4105 Beta finally brings back support of Windows 95. Tested was OSR2, note that some GUI controls might require installing IE4 (OSR 2.5).