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First post, by Xray1281

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What motherboard from 1999 would be the best for gaming? I have a GeForce 256 ddr and a pentium 3 370.

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Reply 1 of 18, by dan86

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Xray1281 wrote:

What motherboard from 1999 would be the best for gaming? I have a GeForce 256 ddr and a pentium 3.

slot 1 or 370?
slot1 Abit be6. I believe the BE6-II came out in 2000, wile the be6 was in 99.
sk370? there are alot of good boards. If you're set on 1999 your want ether a 440bx board or Apollo Pro 133.

Reply 2 of 18, by dionb

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i440BX will trounce ApolloPro133, which is a slug. ApolloPro133A is a lot better but still slower clock-for-clock than the BX, and the very first ApolloPro133A board is only barely December 1999. Still, if you have a 133MHz FSB P3 and don't want to overclock your 1999 board, that's what you need - or go for an Intel VC820 with i820 chipset, which, paired with PC800 RDRAM comes very, very close to BX performance on average.

Exactly which P3 do you have there? That determines requirements for the board (including slot vs socket).

Reply 3 of 18, by PARKE

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A couple of relevant reviews may be of interest:

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/440bx … review,128.html

http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/20000714/print.html

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Reply 4 of 18, by dan86

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dionb wrote:

i440BX will trounce ApolloPro133, which is a slug. ApolloPro133A is a lot better but still slower clock-for-clock than the BX.

For the most part that is true, but ApolloPro133 supports AGP 4x and more ram. So if the OP needs more AGP bandwidth or ram ApolloPro133 is the way to go. On top of that keep in mind BX at 133fsb will overclock the AGP slot, for the most part that is not a problem, but some cards don't like the overclocked AGP slot.
That all being sad, I'd still opt for the 440bx chipset myself.

Reply 7 of 18, by PARKE

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dan86 wrote:

For the most part that is true, but ApolloPro133 supports AGP 4x and more ram. So if the OP needs more AGP bandwidth or ram ApolloPro133 is the way to go.

That is not quite correct. ApolloPro133 does not support AGP 4x and it does not support RAM sticks over 256 MB.
As Dionb pointed out you need Apollo Pro 133A (the 'A' indicates the next generation) to approach 440BX performance.

Reply 10 of 18, by Warlord

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The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html

Also 400bx came out in 1998 not 1999, so therefor3 440bx isn't eligible for discussion since its not 1999.

Reply 11 of 18, by Intel486dx33

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Maybe the Dell Dimension T series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Dimension

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http://www.mroach.com/2018/04/05/dream-pc-del … ps-t450-part-1/

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Reply 12 of 18, by Katmai500

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Warlord wrote:

The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html

Also 400bx came out in 1998 not 1999, so therefor3 440bx isn't eligible for discussion since its not 1999.

I think OP means available in 1999, not necessarily released in 1999.

Reply 13 of 18, by Warlord

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Katmai500 wrote:
Warlord wrote:

The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html

Also 400bx came out in 1998 not 1999, so therefor3 440bx isn't eligible for discussion since its not 1999.

I think OP means available in 1999, not necessarily released in 1999.

well he said "from 1999" I agree though he may not care if it is from 1998.

Reply 14 of 18, by Intel486dx33

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Maybe an HP Kayak XU or XA's with SCSI drives, 512mb ram, AGP, BX440, Dual slot-1 CPU 400mhz or 500mhz

My computer from 1999 ( HP Kayak XU ) Dual CPU P3-500 Katmai
Post photos of your favorite 1990’s computer.

If you want it for gaming and Win98 then get the XA model.
XU model is Dual CPU so you need to run WinNT4.0 or 2000

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Reply 15 of 18, by PARKE

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Warlord wrote:
The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999 https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html 8><CUT . […]
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The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html
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Yes, you're right - I mistakenly thought it was released later than 1999.

Reply 16 of 18, by dan86

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Warlord wrote:

The 1st i840 motherboard came out in 1999
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html

Also 400bx came out in 1998 not 1999, so therefor3 440bx isn't eligible for discussion since its not 1999.

Op is asking for motherboard not chipsets. Many 440bx boards can outbin 99 and even later

Reply 17 of 18, by Warlord

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ya but the fastest bx motherboard from 1999 wouldn't beat the fastest i840 motherboard from 1999, so he asked for the most powerful motherboard from 1999, we think thats probably the OR840.

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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rdram-avenger,151.html

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Now we know why i840 is a workstation chipset! The i840-scores are up to 40% higher than the scores of BX, still up to 8% higher than i820. It's true, for a workstation user it may indeed be worth getting rid of his BX/GX-platform and investing in i840 and the expensive RDRAM.

Anyways I thought this was common place knowledge.
Informative Vogons Thread
Outrigger: an ongoing adventure with the OR840

Reply 18 of 18, by The Serpent Rider

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The i840-scores are up to 40% higher than the scores of BX

Only in SPECviewperf, which is probably limited by AGP 2x. Overall 840 is only slightly better in 1:1 tests, but can't be overclocked.

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