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First post, by Intel486dx33

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I have a really nice Lian Li Silver Aluminum full size ATX computer case from 2005.

What is the best hardware to use ?
I want it be close to 2005 period correct or just the best hardware before 2010.
It is going to be a Music/Gaming build.
I already have the sound cards picked out.

Motherboard ? ( 755 socket )
CPU ? ( core-2-extreme or core-2-quad )
RAM ? ( DDR3 ? )
Graphics cards ? ( Nvidia )
OS ( WinXP ) ?

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Reply 1 of 57, by Warlord

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Fastest thing Period would of been Athlon 64 X2 and it destroyed intels offerings at the time.

Fastest thing from Intel would of been cedarmill P4 or Pentium D, Unless you want to go down the AOPEN 479 route.

6 months later you would have regret ever building that computer becasue Conroe launched and that eventually beat AMD and ran circles around your shitty P4.

So if I were to care about periods which I don't Id go AMD.

Unless you just don't care about periods but made a period thread for basically no reason then build a 2007 computer with Core2Quad.

If you want to use DDR3 on Core 2 Quad than you need X38 or X48 chipset which again is more of a 2007-2008 build.

TLDR I have a CS2BX with a 3.1ghz Quad Xeon and 8gb DDR3 that I build in 2008 and it still is running. 12 years later. I upgraded it several times.

Reply 2 of 57, by Horun

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Yeah 2005 was early socket 775. You could max it out with a decent board like Asus P5G41 series and Qx9650 or Q9650 cpu (4core 3Ghz). The G41 supports DDR3. I have a Asrock 775 running a Q9650 and an old 8800GT from 2008, for it's age runs quite well with XP and Win7.

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Reply 4 of 57, by Warlord

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Horun wrote on 2020-01-20, 03:15:

Yeah 2005 was early socket 775. You could max it out with a decent board like Asus P5G41 series and Qx9650 or Q9650 cpu (4core 3Ghz). The G41 supports DDR3. I have a Asrock 775 running a Q9650 and an old 8800GT from 2008, for it's age runs quite well with XP and Win7.

The first Intel Core 2 Duo branded processor cores, code-named Conroe, were launched on July 27, 2006

no you wouldn't, forget thinking that in 2005 you were going to buy a late gen CedarMill board like 955X and use a p4 then in 2006 you were going to upgrade to conroe becasue none of them had VRM support for conroe 1 year later.

I know from experience it happened to me. Core 2 wasn't until late 2006-2007 until it became a thing, not 2005 it never happened that way.

Reply 5 of 57, by texterted

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Just build the machine to play the games you want to play.

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Reply 6 of 57, by Horun

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Right ! 2005 was a bad transition period. I was just thinking IF he wanted to stick to a socket of use in 2005 go for 775 stuff, but more advanced like you mentioned.

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Reply 8 of 57, by candle_86

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So 2005

Athlon FX60 or x2 4800
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
2x1gb OCZ Platinum DDR600
2x 7800GTX 512
150gb Western digital raptor
320gb storage drives
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZX
BFG Phsyx card

That's the ultimate 2005 gamer

Expect to pay alot for some of those parts though

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I7 975 extreme
Asus Rampage II Extreme
Dual HD 5970 crossfire
6x4 gb ddr3 1600 Corsair XMS3
Soundblaster X-Fi or Asus Xonar
60gb ssd
1tb storage
Windows 7
That would also cost alot to build

Reply 9 of 57, by awgamer

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2005, year before core 2 came out, top end was an fx-57 and 7800 gtx 512mb, 2010 was the 875k and gtx 480, or 580 if you want to count it having been released at the end of the year. 7800 gtx 512mb versions are rare now but 7900 gtx is near identical, and 875k was a bit of a regression where a six core gen one i7 xeon x5650-90 would be the CPU of choice for that period now, and fx-57 can be pricey for what you get, a faster substitute being an x2 6400+ than can be down clocked if looking to speed match. In c2d terms fx-57 was relative to a 6600 if I recall, or was that the x2 6400+?, core 2 choice today being an overpowered quad xeon x5450-92, down clock again for speed parity. Top end 05 period correct would be the fx-57 /w a 7900gtx, 7800 gtx 512mb if you could find it, mind you, period correct, even top end is going to result in not full speed even for average frame rate for some games, look at old bench marks. Personally my aim would be maximizing performance as best it can with 60/120 fps lows being the target if possible while not breaking old games and features. Speaking of period correct, there's some recent youtube videos that have revisited CRTs saying they're still better than even 240hz LCDs and look better as well.

Reply 11 of 57, by gdjacobs

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mothergoose729 wrote on 2020-01-20, 06:13:
Pretty good for 2005 […]
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Pretty good for 2005

AMD FX 8350
ATI 2900xt crossfire
some ram idk
windows vista 32bit

If not AMD then I would go power pc. Like a MAC G5 or something. That is pretty good for gaming.

Considering that CPU is two generations ahead and the GPU is 1.5 generations ahead of what AMD had at the time, yes, that's a pretty good system for 2005.

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Reply 12 of 57, by PD2JK

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Wow, I had totally repressed that case design... Thanks for bringing it up again. 😉

Personally I would go for a black Lian-Li PC-61, but I understand your choice. That case is somewhat iconic.

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Reply 13 of 57, by Caluser2000

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I don't understand the question. Surely the iPad is the best gaming platform EVER

Kudos to those who get it.

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Reply 14 of 57, by appiah4

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mothergoose729 wrote on 2020-01-20, 06:13:
Pretty good for 2005 […]
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Pretty good for 2005

AMD FX 8350
ATI 2900xt crossfire
some ram idk
windows vista 32bit

If not AMD then I would go power pc. Like a MAC G5 or something. That is pretty good for gaming.

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Reply 15 of 57, by gdjacobs

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-20, 09:06:

Time traveller? Alternate universe? Nobody knows!

I'm all for warping the space time continuum, but a Time Lord should keep his head straight about these things.

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Reply 18 of 57, by Warlord

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-01-20, 18:59:

Well, What CPU and motherboard best conforms to this idea of a snail computer case in 2005 ?
What was the computer mind set back in 2005 ?

🤣 nothing has the idea of a snail except that case. Maybe build a really slow computer inside it so it will crawl like a snail and also look like a snail. 🤣

Honestly though there are plenty of good suggestions here already if you really want 2005 build go AMD like everyone here as repeatidly said. If you want intel go for either X48 last gen Core2 architecture. Or go for Gen 1 I7 architecture with a X58 for pre 2010

Reply 19 of 57, by cyclone3d

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Guess what I currently have in my Lian-Li case from 2005?
ASUS x79 Deluxe (the newer one)
XEON 1680v2 (8-core, 16 thread with 25MB L3 cache)
EVGA Geforce RTX 2080
Sound Blaster ZxR
Lost of storage.

The system that goes into that snail case should reflect the snail shape... basically the slowest hardware available new in 2005. Older stuff that was on clearance from previous years is even a better match. 😁

Since you said fastest before 2010, then go all out and make it fast. The Core i7-975 is going to be the fastest desktop CPU released in 2009 so go with an LGA 1366 setup.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Releases/Deskt ... 2009).html

Make sure to get at least DDR3-2000 and if not overclocking the CPU (a real shame to not overclock this setup), then at least run the RAM at a higher speed. The system will be a lot better with the RAM at DDR3-1600 or higher. Some games that were newer in that period need the higher throughput and lower latency for the RAM or eles they are a stuttery mess.

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Fastest single card GPU - AMD HD5970 (use two of them for quad crossfire).
Add an Nvidia GTX280 for PhysX.

You can run a Hybrid setup that will use your AMD cards for rendering and the Nvidia card for PhysX.

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