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First post, by tanasen

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Ι 've found locally two boards: the Asrock 775i65G R2.0 and the Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA. I'm thinking of merging two of my systems into one. The dedicated WinXP PC consists of a P4 3.0GHz HT, a Fujitsu D1675 board, 2x1GB DDR-400, SB X-Fi Platinum, XFX HD4650 512MB AGP, which performs ok but struggles a lot in cpu intensive titles and obviously the P4 chokes the HD4650's performance. The other system runs Win7 and WinXP and consists of a Q6700, a Fujitsu G31T-M2 board, 2x2GB DDR2-800, SB Audigy SE, GTX750 2GB which is an excellent all rounder but nothing special. I want to build a fast AGP system and maybe purchase an HD3850 in the near future. I also want to run a modern OS as secondary for convenience and maybe try some DX10 games. Also with these boards I could experiment with Win98 using an older gpu like the FX5900XT which I have in my possesion...
I was thinking of getting the 775i65G and put a Pentium E5800 in there and along with my HD4650 (for now), a couple ssd's and 2x1GB DDR-400 this would make a pretty fast (and cool) system for WinXP and it should still be usable for a more modern OS like Win7/8.1. But today I found the 4CoreDual-VSTA and after doing a little bit of reading in the vogons threads I think I'm better off with this one. This board should work with the Q6700 (downclocked though? so maybe the most suitable processor would still be the E5800? ) and with more than 2 GB of DDR2 RAM (it has a limit of 3.3GB?) but only with the correct modded BIOS, which I'm not sure which one it is. So what do you guys think? To me the 775i65G seems like a low risk choice but the VSTA is probably the most versatile board but maybe a PITA to find the correct configuration.

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Reply 1 of 7, by The Serpent Rider

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Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA is not recommended to use with quads without VRM mod.

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Reply 2 of 7, by Shagittarius

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I use a Xeon3230 w/ 4CoreDual-VSTA without any mods and haven't noticed any issues. What kind of issues are you talking about?

EDIT : Just looked this up, apparently it only matters if your running a PCIe 2.0 card? I'm running strictly AGP on mine so I can run 98 and XP.

Reply 3 of 7, by The Serpent Rider

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VRM is a bit too weak for quads and it may run unstable. If you want to use this board for a long time, you should not overburden it.

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Reply 4 of 7, by Shagittarius

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I had to find ram that I could run at full speed but I haven't noticed any instability and I'm not looking to overclock. Still, do you have a resource for the mod you are suggesting that you could link to?

Reply 5 of 7, by tanasen

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The seller of the VSTA couldn't guarrantee of its working condition so I opted for the 775i65G. I have a PentiumD 820 for now. If everything works ok I'll order the Pentium E5800. Also my RAM kit is a Samsung 2x1GB DDR 400MHz cl3. Will I need a cl2.5 kit ?

PC1😜 III-S 1.4GHz, GA-6VTXE, 512MB SDRAM, Albatron FX5900XTV 128MB, SB Live! 5.1
PC2😜 III 800MHz, MS-6178, 256MB SDRAM, 3DFX Voodoo3 2000 PCI, Creative CT4810
PC3😜 MMX 200MHz, SY-5EAS5, 128MB SDRAM, Diamond Monster 3D, Diamond Viper V330, ESS 1868F

Reply 6 of 7, by agent_x007

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Biggest problem with ASRock AGP/PCIe boards on Quads is massive Vdroop/no LLC, and FSB limitations.
256MHz (real clock), is usually required for full stability (stock) and -0,1V Vcore drop under load doesn't help OC'ing.

As for 775i65... I own 3.0 version.

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Reply 7 of 7, by tanasen

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Update on this thread. Over the past 2 weeks I've built a system with the 775i65G R2.03. I'm still waiting for a Pentium E5800, but for now I use a Pentium D 915. Sadly my X-Fi Platinum died and I installed an Audigy2 value I had lying around. I've updated to the latest v3.30 bios installed the OS (WinXP SP3) on a 32GB SSD and atm I've added an 80GB IDE WD drive, along with an IDE DVD-RW drive. Gaming performance is as expected and even the Pentium D is a significant upgrade over the Pentium 4. The problem is that boot times are very slow. It takes 10 seconds to give signal and another one and a half minute to load to Windows. I've conluded that it is not efficient to run both SATA and IDE drives at the same time. Has anyone any experience with this problem? I'm considering dumping the SATA SSD and go all IDE (since I don't have a sata DVD drive atm).

PC1😜 III-S 1.4GHz, GA-6VTXE, 512MB SDRAM, Albatron FX5900XTV 128MB, SB Live! 5.1
PC2😜 III 800MHz, MS-6178, 256MB SDRAM, 3DFX Voodoo3 2000 PCI, Creative CT4810
PC3😜 MMX 200MHz, SY-5EAS5, 128MB SDRAM, Diamond Monster 3D, Diamond Viper V330, ESS 1868F