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Reply 20 of 33, by lutz79

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I used a needle to check every single hole on the female ps2 adapter. I used the speaker connector on the motherboard to get a GND pin. This is the situation. It seems to me the opposite of how it should be. Is it correct in your opinion? Thank you!

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Reply 22 of 33, by konc

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Check the mouse on your XT, just to make sure that the adapter and the mouse work. There's a high chance that the mouse doesn't support serial operation, have you considered this case?

Reply 23 of 33, by lutz79

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The mouse works regularly. I tried it on another PC. I'm not sure though that it supports serial operation, but probably yes. A few years ago, if I'm not mistaken, I used it with a serial adapter. Do you have more detailed information about it? thank you.

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Reply 24 of 33, by PARKE

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When a mouse supports both serial and PS/2 protocols it is typically noted on the sticker, like so:

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Reply 25 of 33, by lutz79

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I downloaded the drivers for the genius newscroll mouse. The drivers work correctly on COM1, both on DOS and on Win311. I see the mouse pointer on DOSSHELL and on Win311. But it doesn't move!
I tried to insert a PS2 optical mouse, but the light doesn't turn on. Does this mean it is not powered?

Reply 26 of 33, by PARKE

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I do not know the exact symptoms of a mismatch.

Do as konc advised - try the mouse + adapter on another system with serial port in order to eliminate possibilities. If that works either the PCChips motherboard's IO or the serial cable is faulty.

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Reply 28 of 33, by lutz79

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Okay, I tried the adapter on my mother's computer with a COM1 port. This computer has Windows 10. I have connected both the Genius mouse and the optical mouse. On restart they are not recognized by the operating system. I am increasingly convinced that the adapter is broken.

Reply 29 of 33, by PARKE

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Everything is possible but my first vote would be for the Genius mouse being incompatible with serial port. But there is little harm in buying/trying another adapter. Spare parts are almost a must in this hobby.

Reply 32 of 33, by Peter5557

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@Horun

Thanks a lot for the serial pinout! Was so happy to get my P60 Mainboard to run, and then my mouse would not function.

Tried 5 different serial brackets, and with no one my serial mouse was recognized.

Then is soldered the cables like it is seen on your pinot - And now my serial mouse is running fine - Yeah - THX 😀

Reply 33 of 33, by agentot

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saved me today!!!!!
thanks!

Horun wrote on 2020-03-14, 23:42:
Ok so there are two standard motherboard pin outs for COM ports, and probably a few proprietary ones. The standard ones are AT/E […]
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Ok so there are two standard motherboard pin outs for COM ports, and probably a few proprietary ones. The standard ones are AT/EVEREX type or DTK/INTEL type, the way to check is from pin 5 or pin 9 on the header. If pin 5 is Ground then AT/Everex, if pin 9 is ground then DTK/INTEL. The PcChips m919 v3.4 (or at least my board) has pin 5 as ground just like early Asus and Gigabyte so is AT/Everex. To check your COM port dongle you need to check if pin 5 on the the header connection is connected to pin 5 or pin 3 of DB9.
if connected to pin 5 then it will work with AT/Everex header, if to pin 3 then DTK/Intel header wired. To verify if DTK/Intel type and not proprietary if you discover Pin 5 on header connector is to pin 3 on DB9: check pin 9 on header connector to pin 5 on DB9, it should be 0 ohms. Anything else is proprietary and will need further checking.
Note: Pin 1 on the dongle header connector always goes to Pin 1 on the DB9, no matter which type.

RS232 Motherboard header pinout ( AT/EVEREX )
IDC internal
(newer)
AT/EVEREX Signal Name Description
pin number

header pin cable pin
1 DCD Data Carrier Detect 1
2 RXD Receive Data 2
3 TXD Transmit Data 3
4 DTR Data Terminal Ready 4
5 GND System Ground 5
6 DSR Data Set Ready 6
7 RTS Request to Send 7
8 CTS Clear to Send 8
9 RI Ring Indicator 9


RS232 Motherboard header pinout ( DTK/INTEL )
IDC internal
(older)

DTK/INTEL Signal Name Description
pin number

Header pin cable pin
1 DCD Data Carrier Detect 1
2 DSR Data Set Ready 6
3 RXD Receive Data 2
4 RTS Request to Send 7
5 TXD Transmit Data 3
6 CTS Clear to Send 8
7 DTR Data Terminal Ready 4
8 RI Ring Indicator 9
9 GND System Ground 5

Pin 10 removed in connector.

EDIT: added extra info and corrected my grammar