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First post, by treeman

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I am desoldering some components to clean corrosion and this ceramic part broke in half. Im it looks like a resistor it says 522 104 on it. Looks like a fat wire inside, could I solder it back? But that would change the resistance of I add more mass to it?

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Reply 2 of 27, by treeman

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ShovelKnight wrote on 2020-04-05, 11:28:

It's a 100 nF capacitor, and no, you can't solder it back

thanx for the quick reply, time to look for a replacement then

Reply 6 of 27, by derSammler

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treeman wrote on 2020-04-05, 11:47:

could I get away with replacing it with a SMD 100nF capacitor?

Yes, as long as it is a Tantalum cap as well. While you can replace electrolyte caps with Tantalum caps, it's not recommended to do it the other way around.

Reply 8 of 27, by treeman

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all it says is 522 104, but I have another identical capacitor (they were both side by side) can I determine the voltage using a multimeter on the second capacitor I removed?

Reply 10 of 27, by derSammler

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"104" refers to the capacity of 100nF. No idea what "522" is supposed to mean. I know such odd numbers from SMD caps only. Could be 5% tolerance and 22V however, as these would fit in with common specs of such caps.

LewisRaz wrote on 2020-04-05, 13:10:

If its from a PC just make sure its higher than 12v and it will be fine.

No, since you can have a voltage of up to 24V on a PC (between -12V and +12V), and this is indeed not uncommon in certain circuits. Also, the next higher voltage for a cap would be 16V and that is *not* suitable for a 12V rail. So to be on the absolute safe side, you would have to use a cap rated for 35V.

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Reply 11 of 27, by keropi

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is this really a tantalum cap?
it looks to me an old-style 100nf axial/bead capacitor and most likely a filtering one that can be omitted (check if it sits between gnd and some voltage)
a whatever-style 100nf ceramic one will work fine as a replacement

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Reply 13 of 27, by derSammler

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Looks like a Tantalum cap to me due to its form and slighly shiny orange color. I've not seen other types of caps looking like that. But we don't know where it is coming from and how old it actually is.

But it should be easy to tell, even if not from the pictures. If it is indeed a Tantalum cap, one of the pins should have a mark in some way (black line or a dot) to indicate the positive side.

Reply 14 of 27, by treeman

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This is how they look prior to removal, external battery power goes to them so im guessing 5v rating should be enough?

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ps maybye thats a 5ZZ if there is such a thing?

Reply 17 of 27, by Deksor

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People tell you you can't, but actually I broke one exactly that way, the mobo it came one didn't work well anymore, then I resoldered what was left to the mobo and the mobo worked again, so it can be done ... but they're so cheap you should replace it indeed.

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Reply 18 of 27, by Horun

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Yes it is a 100nF axial ceramic, probably rated at 50v like the pic below. One 486 board has a few of them as in the other pic.

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Reply 19 of 27, by treeman

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I found my local shop has some monolithic capacitors in stock, I'll call them but who knows if they will be open during COVID-19 although half the shops are still open.

From my research this is supposed to be a very stable capacitor, any reason can't use this one?

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