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First post, by 386SX

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Hi,

I've build this config with a E8600 @ standard freqs, P5K-SE, 4GB DDR2-800 in Dual and a POV GT610 1GB DDR3. Having used Linux on Ubuntu LXDE with its own gpu drivers I ran all 3DMarks with Wine software and wasn't expecting to run them "almost" that easy with only few problems.
At the end I get this results:

3DMark2001: 14110
3DMark2003: 7817
3DMark2005: around 5300
3DMark2006: 4101

Are these results good and comparable to a Win enviroments? I'm surprised the computer run really well for a modern usage, this cpu surprise me every times! Having a liquid cooling system not used I was thinking to install it and maybe in future I could use a faster video card even if I don't want to spend a lot, what card would you suggest?
Thanks

Reply 1 of 7, by brian105

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Why in the world would you ever install a liquid cooling system in there? It would be an absolute waste of time. Core 2 Duos run very cool anyways, and I don't get why you'd try upgrading one that much to begin with since most games of the era run fine on modern hardware.

Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP

Reply 2 of 7, by 386SX

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brian105 wrote on 2020-05-04, 16:52:

Why in the world would you ever install a liquid cooling system in there? It would be an absolute waste of time. Core 2 Duos run very cool anyways, and I don't get why you'd try upgrading one that much to begin with since most games of the era run fine on modern hardware.

Because this is the most modern hardware I've got beside an Atom mini-itx. 😀
The idea was to build this config with the P4 661 being the "best" P4 and it'd still run well but then I was thinking about using cheap old components for a faster still capable machine, overclock the E8600 to 3,66Ghz, SSD, ram maybe a GPU like a GTX4xx/5xx something like that and I imagine I'd have a sort of HD 720p resolution oriented "modern" still capable machine.
And then I have this CoolerMaster basic liquid system I tried once and never used anymore.

Reply 3 of 7, by brian105

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I see no use in that much effort. The E8600 gets obliterated by 2nd gen i3's. Honestly, I'd save up some money for a used desktop on eBay such as the Optiplex 9010 or 9020. Will ship with a CPU miles better than the E8600. I know your feeling of being attached to a machine from that time, it still seems capable (I have a spare overclocked E7200 and GT 630), but gaming is absolutely a no-go.

Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP

Reply 4 of 7, by texterted

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I've a similar set up but with an Ati Radeon HD4870. It makes for a fantastic XP gamer. Strangely, I too have a liquid cooler on the CPU. A corsair AIO, H60 or something like that, I forget.
A 120GB SSD for the OS and a couple of spinners for games.
Get a better graphics card, maybe an Audigy 2 ZS or a X-Fi for Eax and you're good to go.

Cheers

Ted

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XP Pro:- Asus P5 Q SE Plus, C2D E8400, 4 Gig DDR2, Radeon HD4870, SB Audigy 2ZS.

Reply 5 of 7, by Errius

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I tested a PCIe x1 variant of this GPU with 512 MB GDDR3 a while ago. The test system was a 3.6 GHz Pentium 4 HT 660 with 2 GB DDR2-533 RAM running Windows 7 Pro 32-bit:

3DMark2001: 13238
3DMark2003: 8463
3DMark2005: 4803
3DMark2006: 2694

ETA: correction

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Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 6 of 7, by 386SX

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brian105 wrote on 2020-05-05, 04:21:

I see no use in that much effort. The E8600 gets obliterated by 2nd gen i3's. Honestly, I'd save up some money for a used desktop on eBay such as the Optiplex 9010 or 9020. Will ship with a CPU miles better than the E8600. I know your feeling of being attached to a machine from that time, it still seems capable (I have a spare overclocked E7200 and GT 630), but gaming is absolutely a no-go.

Yeah I imagine it's not worth the money I'd spend on a GPU that would not be stressed by the cpu at all. I've never been a fan of these Intel generations cpu until I tested it and sure were impressing and somehow still nowdays. There're many youtube test videos where they question the usability in the last years with acceptables results. Going to say also these mainboards were really well built and without those awful modern UEFI bios.
But still maybe it's time to upgrade as soon as I could in future. Lately I found an FM2 mainboard I was thinking faster but the fastest processor supported seems just a bit faster than the E8600 and it didn't even boot (no components seems faulty, I may try to change the eeprom directly to see if the bios got damaged somehow but still an old solution not worth at all).
I am not expert of modern config, imagine I always considered these 775 config fastest things ever tried. 😁
And I'm used to the mighty Atom Cedarview so everything is faster! 😁

Reply 7 of 7, by 386SX

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Errius wrote on 2020-05-05, 06:09:
I tested a PCIe x1 variant of this GPU with 512 MB GDDR3 a while ago. The test system was a 3.4 GHz P4 with 2 GB DDR2-533 RAM ru […]
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I tested a PCIe x1 variant of this GPU with 512 MB GDDR3 a while ago. The test system was a 3.4 GHz P4 with 2 GB DDR2-533 RAM running Windows 7 Pro 32-bit:

3DMark2001: 13238
3DMark2003: 8463
3DMark2005: 4803
3DMark2006: 2694

Seems that in Linux the Core2 E8600 compensate the o.s. differences speed compatiblity cause with a P4 661 3,6ghz numbers were way lower.
Thanks. 😀