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First post, by austinham

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I been thinking my Athlon xp 2400+ is not fast enough for the some of the games I plan to play on the system.
The board will be a abit kg7 with a fx 5950 ultra amd 512mb of ram running 98.
The games I question are , UT03 and 04, doom3, resident evil 4, KOTOR2 with mods.Wile doom3 will be held back by the fx 5950 the other games I believe will be held back by the CPU and motherboard.
Does any one have any input ? Should I get a better board and CPU? Or just deal with sub 60fps. I'll be gaming at 1600x1200.

Thanks.

Reply 1 of 11, by Joseph_Joestar

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If you want 60+ FPS at 1600x1200 in those games, you will need more powerful hardware.

There's no reason to play those games under Win98, so go with an WinXP build and a Core2Duo + 2 GB RAM and at least an 7600 GT (preferably something much stronger like a GTX 750). Or just play them on your modern machine, if you don't mind losing hardware EAX support (there is still a way to emulate EAX via software).

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Reply 2 of 11, by derSammler

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With those specs, you are certainly quite a bit over the system requirements for these games, so they will certainly run fine. But as Joseph_Joestar said, don't expect 60 fps at 1600x1200 resolution with that hardware. And yes, it would be more wisely to play them on modern hardware.

Reply 3 of 11, by synrgy87

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you're talking more 1024x768 or maybve 1280x1024 with that hardware, could certain try n overclock the 2400+ a bit if you have a decent cooler on it, or throw a 3000/3200 in there. As the others have said you won't be hitting 60fos at 1600x1200.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-05-05, 17:09:

If you want 60+ FPS at 1600x1200 in those games, you will need more powerful hardware.

There's no reason to play those games under Win98, so go with an WinXP build and a Core2Duo + 2 GB RAM and at least an 7600 GT (preferably something much stronger like a GTX 750). Or just play them on your modern machine, if you don't mind losing hardware EAX support (there is still a way to emulate EAX via software).

You could run such a system on windows xp and still have an audigy 2zs / audigy4 / x-fi for some sweet sweet EAX goodness without software emulation 😀

Reply 4 of 11, by austinham

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I'm putting together a one size fits all retro gaming PC 94-2005 ish gaming. One OS, one PC. So I'm sticking to 9x. I don't want to dual boot for dos games, games that lack 2k/xp support or lose sb16 support. I was thinking of a 939 system, But I would still be keeping the 5950 ultra for older game compatibility. A 939 system would get me a much better CPU, dual channel ram and agp 8x. BUt I'm not sure if I will need to a better GPU too.

also a 3200+ is a 400mhz fsb CPU and the kg7 is a 266mhz FSB board so I be caped around 1.5ghz whit that CPU.

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Reply 5 of 11, by Joseph_Joestar

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synrgy87 wrote on 2020-05-05, 17:29:

You could run such a system on windows xp and still have an audigy 2zs / audigy4 / x-fi for some sweet sweet EAX goodness without software emulation 😀

What I meant was, if you go above WinXP you lose out on hardware EAX, and I imagine any modern machine would be running Windows 7, at the very least.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
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PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 6 of 11, by austinham

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-05-05, 17:44:
synrgy87 wrote on 2020-05-05, 17:29:

You could run such a system on windows xp and still have an audigy 2zs / audigy4 / x-fi for some sweet sweet EAX goodness without software emulation 😀

What I meant was, if you go above WinXP you lose out on hardware EAX, and I imagine any modern machine would be running Windows 7, at the very least.

and I sure don't want to lose EAX.

Reply 7 of 11, by austinham

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Thanks for the info guys. I chosen to get a latter sk462 board, an abit nf7-sg2 witch will allow me to use a 3200+. Not quite a 939 or 775 system. But it will be a good boost over the older 2400+ and abit KG7 board.

Reply 8 of 11, by The Serpent Rider

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The games I question are , UT03 and 04, doom3, resident evil 4, KOTOR2 with mods.

Absolutely not. UT04 is a notorious CPU hog. KOTOR2 also would benefit from more powerful CPU.

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Reply 9 of 11, by synrgy87

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austinham wrote on 2020-05-08, 13:58:

Thanks for the info guys. I chosen to get a latter sk462 board, an abit nf7-sg2 witch will allow me to use a 3200+. Not quite a 939 or 775 system. But it will be a good boost over the older 2400+ and abit KG7 board.

Love Abit boards, actually have a Kt7A that i run a 2800+ in and it'll hit 2ghz which is pretty cool. (KT133A chipset).

The nf7-sg2 I've never had but looks like a nice board, I run my 3000+ and 3200+ in ASUS nfoce2/nforce2 ultra boards which are also really nice(all-be-it a damn ugly colour).

Reply 10 of 11, by austinham

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synrgy87 wrote on 2020-05-08, 14:19:
austinham wrote on 2020-05-08, 13:58:

Thanks for the info guys. I chosen to get a latter sk462 board, an abit nf7-sg2 witch will allow me to use a 3200+. Not quite a 939 or 775 system. But it will be a good boost over the older 2400+ and abit KG7 board.

Love Abit boards, actually have a Kt7A that i run a 2800+ in and it'll hit 2ghz which is pretty cool. (KT133A chipset).

The nf7-sg2 I've never had but looks like a nice board, I run my 3000+ and 3200+ in ASUS nfoce2/nforce2 ultra boards which are also really nice(all-be-it a damn ugly colour).

Thanks, from what I know the nf7-sg2 is just a 2 phase version of the nf7 with some more limited overclocking settings.
I went with the sg2 over the normal nf7 because the sata on the sg2 is on the southbridge vs a pci device and the sg2 is sad to have better stability.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-05-08, 14:08:

The games I question are , UT03 and 04, doom3, resident evil 4, KOTOR2 with mods.

Absolutely not. UT04 is a notorious CPU hog. KOTOR2 also would benefit from more powerful CPU.

I found some notes on a a old 1.4ghz Piii-s system I had with a fx5950, @ 1200x1600 there was very little slow down in kotor2. it was mostly 60fps+ wiht slow downs due to the CPU maxing out. UT03/4 and doom3 are the ones that got me worried. I have no notes on them. I know doom3 will crush a fx5950 and ut03/04 is a little bit of an unknown to me.

Reply 11 of 11, by The Serpent Rider

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Doom 3 will work better too with faster CPU, but you won't notice it with GeForce FX. Unreal Tournament 2004 can drop below 30 fps on big maps or/and with huge number of bots easily.

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