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First post, by tomexplodes

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Specifically a 30gb hard drive. Once again, if there's no good way, I can accept that, but I figured somebody might know something.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 1 of 37, by maxtherabbit

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with MSDOS 6.22, no - you can make additional partitions of 2GB each, but DOS will only allow a total of 4 giving you 8GB

with MSDOS7.1 you can use FAT32

Reply 2 of 37, by tomexplodes

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Then it looks like I'll upgrade to 7.1!

Will this screw anything up?

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 3 of 37, by darry

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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 18:56:

Then it looks like I'll upgrade to 7.1!

Will this screw anything up?

It will install Windows 98, because that is what is required to get MS-DOS 7.1 .

Reply 4 of 37, by tomexplodes

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Oh. That's not what I want, then.

EDIT: What about this, here?

link removed 'cause yeah

Last edited by tomexplodes on 2020-07-23, 20:09. Edited 2 times in total.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 6 of 37, by Joseph_Joestar

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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 18:56:

Then it looks like I'll upgrade to 7.1!

Will this screw anything up?

Drivers for some Creative cards refuse to install under DOS 7.1 but there are modified versions which bypass this restriction.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 7 of 37, by tomexplodes

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In light of all this, maybe I'll just try to get 8gb worth of partitions out of it. Do partitions always need to be separate drive letters?

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 8 of 37, by darry

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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:05:

Oh. That's not what I want, then.

EDIT: What about this, here?

https://[REDACTED]

There is
a) the legal aspect (maybe OK if you already have corresponding Windows license, but I am not a lawyer)

b) Do you trust whoever put it together ?

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Reply 9 of 37, by tomexplodes

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darry wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:17:
There is a) the legal aspect (maybe OK if you already have corresponding Windows license, but I am not a lawyer) […]
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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:05:

Oh. That's not what I want, then.

EDIT: What about this, here?

There is
a) the legal aspect (maybe OK if you already have corresponding Windows license, but I am not a lawyer)

b) Do you trust whoever put it together ?

Hence the whole "eh, forget it, 2gb or 8gb is enough" haha.

Last edited by tomexplodes on 2020-07-23, 20:15. Edited 1 time in total.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 10 of 37, by keenmaster486

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Don't listen to the naysayers. "MS-DOS 7.1" is just Windows 98SE DOS with the Win9x branding and GUI integration stuff removed... i.e. it doesn't try to start Windows when you boot.

I use it for all my 386+ DOS machines. Works perfectly. There are no compatibility concerns between it and DOS 6.22.

Edit: and if you are concerned about legality, if you own a copy of Windows 98 or 95B already I'd say it's OK.

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Reply 11 of 37, by tomexplodes

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keenmaster486 wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:27:

Don't listen to the naysayers. "MS-DOS 7.1" is just Windows 98SE DOS with the Win9x branding and GUI integration stuff removed... i.e. it doesn't try to start Windows when you boot.

I use it for all my 386+ DOS machines. Works perfectly. There are no compatibility concerns between it and DOS 6.22.

Edit: and if you are concerned about legality, if you own a copy of Windows 98 or 95B already I'd say it's OK.

That's good to know. Thank you! I own both, as it happens.

Is the version I linked to legit?

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 12 of 37, by BloodyCactus

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remember if your running 2gb with dos your running massive cluster sizes which just waste space. if your running ONLY dos and not windows, 2gb is heaps of space. or 2x2gb or 4x1gb with smaller clusters.

dos games are tiny.

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Reply 13 of 37, by tomexplodes

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GTA, NFS SE, Quest for Glory 4, etc. are not particularly small when all you have is 2gb.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 14 of 37, by darry

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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:52:
keenmaster486 wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:27:

Don't listen to the naysayers. "MS-DOS 7.1" is just Windows 98SE DOS with the Win9x branding and GUI integration stuff removed... i.e. it doesn't try to start Windows when you boot.

I use it for all my 386+ DOS machines. Works perfectly. There are no compatibility concerns between it and DOS 6.22.

Edit: and if you are concerned about legality, if you own a copy of Windows 98 or 95B already I'd say it's OK.

That's good to know. Thank you! I own both, as it happens.

Is the version I linked to legit?

Define legit. It definitely isn't legal on its own. As to whether the files have been tampered with, your guess is as good as mine.

If I wanted DOS 7.1 only, I would install Windows 98 SE somewhere (like a VM), make a bootable recovery diskette, copy over the files I want to keep ( mostly c:\windows\command content), use the bootable disk to partition and format the retro machine, copy over the files I kept to the retro machine and call it a day .

Reply 15 of 37, by tomexplodes

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darry wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:02:
tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:52:
keenmaster486 wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:27:

Don't listen to the naysayers. "MS-DOS 7.1" is just Windows 98SE DOS with the Win9x branding and GUI integration stuff removed... i.e. it doesn't try to start Windows when you boot.

I use it for all my 386+ DOS machines. Works perfectly. There are no compatibility concerns between it and DOS 6.22.

Edit: and if you are concerned about legality, if you own a copy of Windows 98 or 95B already I'd say it's OK.

That's good to know. Thank you! I own both, as it happens.

Is the version I linked to legit?

Define legit. It definitely isn't legal on its own. As to whether the files have been tampered with, your guess is as good as mine.

If I wanted DOS 7.1 only, I would install Windows 98 SE somewhere (like a VM), make a bootable recovery diskette, copy over the files I want to keep ( mostly c:\windows\command content), use the bootable disk to partition and format the retro machine, copy over the files I kept to the retro machine and call it a day .

I understand completely. Would you like me to remove the link? EDIT: I did it anyway

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 16 of 37, by darry

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tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:08:
darry wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:02:
tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 19:52:

That's good to know. Thank you! I own both, as it happens.

Is the version I linked to legit?

Define legit. It definitely isn't legal on its own. As to whether the files have been tampered with, your guess is as good as mine.

If I wanted DOS 7.1 only, I would install Windows 98 SE somewhere (like a VM), make a bootable recovery diskette, copy over the files I want to keep ( mostly c:\windows\command content), use the bootable disk to partition and format the retro machine, copy over the files I kept to the retro machine and call it a day .

I understand completely. Would you like me to remove the link?

I am not a moderator here, but my guess is that they would object to the link .

Reply 17 of 37, by tomexplodes

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In any event, all of this is moot. I was going to use a 120gb drive I found lying around in my 98 machine, but it's a dead drive, so I won't be putting a 30gb drive in my DOS machine now. The only other hard drive I have lying around is an 8gb OG Xbox drive, which is locked and formatted as a FATX drive, rendering it effectively useless. Thank you all for the info, it's much appreciated.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 18 of 37, by tomexplodes

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darry wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:13:
tomexplodes wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:08:
darry wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:02:

Define legit. It definitely isn't legal on its own. As to whether the files have been tampered with, your guess is as good as mine.

If I wanted DOS 7.1 only, I would install Windows 98 SE somewhere (like a VM), make a bootable recovery diskette, copy over the files I want to keep ( mostly c:\windows\command content), use the bootable disk to partition and format the retro machine, copy over the files I kept to the retro machine and call it a day .

I understand completely. Would you like me to remove the link?

I am not a moderator here, but my guess is that they would object to the link .

No problem. Can you take it out of the quote on your response earlier as well? Didn't mean to get your back up.

1.) MS-DOS 6.22, Pentium 233mhz, 32mb RAM, S3 Trio64, Sound Blaster Pro 2
2.) Windows 98SE with Unofficial SP3, AMD Athlon 1.3ghz, 768mb RAM, Geforce 4 MX 440 64mb AGP, Sound Blaster Live! Value

Reply 19 of 37, by Warlord

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they r trolling u kinda hard. go to bootdisk.com in the wayback machine and get a 98se boot disk. then u have dos 7.1. might take some effort to find a working file back up.

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