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First post, by pentiumspeed

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The "hole" is PII, will I don't miss that by not having the PII in my line up of computers? What I have is 386DX 33, 486DX and Pentium 133 and 233mmx, and options: PIII 800 PIII 1GHz 133Fsb.

Can't have too many built computers due to limited space.

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Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 3 of 11, by pentiumspeed

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True. I had so much fun with PII 350 back in the day with some games but I went straight to Athlon XP socket A back then when P4 appeared. Prior to PII 350, I had Pentium 100 since new. But I recall I had no problem using Athlon 2000+ on vague recollection of what I had, then went to barton 3000+. Still no problems and fun.

If I skip socket 370 (I have PIII 800 and 866, 1GHz) will I do good with Athlon XP 2400+ keeping in mind with avoiding game issues up to 2GHz? I have slower Athlon XP 1GHz and 1.8GHz as well.
I have option of using PIII too.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 5 of 11, by Robin4

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My computer line up would be:

1. PC XT Nec V20 (enough speed or slow down for xt games.
2. 286-12 mhz (use this system for faster later XT games and 286 period 1989-1991
3. 386 DX 40 Mhz (use this for games that needed a 386 machine.
4 486 DX2 66/80 DX4 100/120 machine (use this for the 486 period 1994-1996
5. Pentium 133/150 classic windows 95 *for earlier windows 95 games multi media
6. Also want to build an Pentium MMX 233, but might consider going for an AMD K6-2 build to fill the gap with earlier Pentium II area.
7. Then i have got an Pentium III 550Mhz for windows 98 se.
8 Athlon XP 2400+ build for lastest windows 98 se *installed now windows 2000 on it*
9 AMD FX6350 build with 990fx motherboard and HD 7870 GHZ for XP gaming / eventually dualbooted with vista 64 bit. or perhaps windows 7
10. Intel skylake 6700K build for windows 7 area.

For myself i think you could better go right with a pentuim III instead, then going with an older pentium II with is much slower.
Maybe you have loved the Pentium II area , then you could consider a Pentium II systeem instead.. But i would go for the fast p3 system .

For me the computers arent just an object. Its also a collection item. Id rather like to play on such an old system. Then making a more recent sleeper build, which dont breath the older days. Old computer are an experience.

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 6 of 11, by Horun

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Robin4 wrote on 2020-08-31, 01:17:
My computer line up would be: […]
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My computer line up would be:

1. PC XT Nec V20 (enough speed or slow down for xt games.
2. 286-12 mhz (use this system for faster later XT games and 286 period 1989-1991
3. 386 DX 40 Mhz (use this for games that needed a 386 machine.
4 486 DX2 66/80 DX4 100/120 machine (use this for the 486 period 1994-1996
5. Pentium 133/150 classic windows 95 *for earlier windows 95 games multi media
6. Also want to build an Pentium MMX 233, but might consider going for an AMD K6-2 build to fill the gap with earlier Pentium II area.
7. Then i have got an Pentium III 550Mhz for windows 98 se.
8 Athlon XP 2400+ build for lastest windows 98 se *installed now windows 2000 on it*
9 AMD FX6350 build with 990fx motherboard and HD 7870 GHZ for XP gaming / eventually dualbooted with vista 64 bit. or perhaps windows 7
10. Intel skylake 6700K build for windows 7 area.

For myself i think you could better go right with a pentuim III instead, then going with an older pentium II with is much slower.
Maybe you have loved the Pentium II area , then you could consider a Pentium II systeem instead.. But i would go for the fast p3 system .

That is a good line up ! Similar but opted for a K6-2/366 for your #6 and #9 is a Q9650. Also have a P4 3Ghz that would be at about 8.5 🤣

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 7 of 11, by Robin4

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I dont having an K6-2/366 laying around.. But have the 350 and the 400Mhz versions.

About that FX6350 build. I have chosen for AMD instead of Intel because i have only one S775 board here, but it has a problem with the ethernet jack. Also have one QX9650 around.. But its only one. If the system will be broken. I dont have the same parts to replace it with.. Also its a big gamble to buy an S775 motherboard, because 9/10 the socket protector isnt installed. So the socket pin could be damage due transport. What you dont want is to receive a dead motherboard from ebay are such.. So thats why a skipped s775 as a plague. And AM3(+) is kinda the same speed. FX6350 performance like an AMD Phenom II X4 980. It is compatible with windows xp. But have enough power to dualboot windows vista of windows 7 as well.

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 9 of 11, by Horun

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Robin4 wrote on 2020-08-31, 01:44:

I dont having an K6-2/366 laying around.. But have the 350 and the 400Mhz versions.

About that FX6350 build. I have chosen for AMD instead of Intel because i have only one S775 board here, but it has a problem with the ethernet jack. Also have one QX9650 around.. But its only one. If the system will be broken. I dont have the same parts to replace it with.. Also its a big gamble to buy an S775 motherboard, because 9/10 the socket protector isnt installed. So the socket pin could be damage due transport. What you dont want is to receive a dead motherboard from ebay are such.. So thats why a skipped s775 as a plague. And AM3(+) is kinda the same speed. FX6350 performance like an AMD Phenom II X4 980. It is compatible with windows xp. But have enough power to dualboot windows vista of windows 7 as well.

Understandable ! Think the K6 350 or 400 would be good. I have the 366 on a FIC 503+, also have a k6-2 400 cpu but opted to run the 366 cause it was already on the board 😀
Yes soc 775 not protected proper are an issue, is why they included the socket cover on all new boards but most do not include them on used boards. Even a piece of large stiff cardboard would help but most sellers are to dumb ? 😒

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-08-31, 02:14:

My computer line up would be

That line up is too redundant.

Yes but Not if you have the space 😀
edit: had to remove the bad word hehee 😀

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 10 of 11, by waterbeesje

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I'd go for the K6-2 / 3 (+?) .
You don't need it for com compatibility, so it's a curiosity. So why not go extreme and get a maxed out Super7?

Hardware can be had quite cheap, still plenty available and has no fixed multiplier. This allows to play with different settings for different levels of performance.
66x6 or 100x4? 75x5? 100x6 mighty be possible sometimes? 60x1? You name it!

Stuck at 10MHz...

Reply 11 of 11, by dionb

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Hardware is one aspect, software another.

There is no real reason to have anything between Pentium MMX and P3/Athlon if just looking at hardware, but you could install Windows-only on the P3/Athlon and take a P2/K6-2 system and DOS only there. Advatage would be that you then don't need ISA on the P3/Athlon which gives you a lot more and cheaper options, and means you can do a nice Aureal+SBLive combo there and leave the DOS cards for the ISA-heavy P2.