Does it have to be mSATA? usually the easiest way to make old systems use solid state drives is using CF-to-IDE converters, because they are cheap, passive and CF cards are easy to obtain.

I have considered that; however, I have a couple mSATA cards lying around and I was wanting to see if I could put them to use.

Try booting with "Super Fdisk" first to partition and format the drive.

Or do it using another machine, the put it back in.

So I tried booting in gparted from a live USB and that did not work as well. It would hang at a black screen with the blinking white line up top.; however, I could boot just fine if the drive was taken out and just booting with the USB in. Makes me wonder whether these ide to mSATA adapters are not possible to boot from!

I have multiple IDE top mSata adapters in use with no issues, mostly for older laptops.
The last one I used is now in use in an Asus L8400L with a 128GB samsung msata ssd.
It has a win98 fresh install and runs very smooth.

I just googled your specs and it seems your system is native xp so I would expect it to boot without issues with such adapter.
What happens if you attack a floppy and try the win98 floppy and then to CD, does it then work?

Question before I dive into what you asked for nvm1, what kind of adapters are you using? Are they the cheap ones that come in plastic? Because I have been reading more that those , which are the ones I have, have compatibility issues due to their chipset, which is the JM20330. I have been doing more research and found that the Marvell chipset is much more compatible from the reviews I have seen.

I had to disable UDMA with my JM20330 mSATA IDE converter and force PIO mode 4 (this on a VIA686B).

If I am to be honest, I have no idea what UDMA and PIO are or how to switch to them. Can you tell me how I could do that? Thanks.

They are operating modes for the IDE interface. Go into the BIOS and look for an option to disable UltraDMA.

So I went ahead and was able to disable Ultra DMA mode, and it worked! Apparently, the JM20330 chipset has issues with the Ultra DMA speeds, so I think suffice to say that these cheaper adapters you see pop up everywhere come at a cost! Thanks so much for the help.

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:19:

So I went ahead and was able to disable Ultra DMA mode, and it worked! Apparently, the JM20330 chipset has issues with the Ultra DMA speeds, so I think suffice to say that these cheaper adapters you see pop up everywhere come at a cost! Thanks so much for the help.

UDMA can work fine with JM20330 chips . I have had success with ICH2 (only up to UDMA66 and only with the ESDI_506.PDR driver patched for LBA48, it was hopelessly broken with IAA for me) and a Promise Ultra133 TX2, both under Windows 98 SE .

What IDE controller are you using with your JM20330 adapter ? Can you post a link to a photo of your specific adapter ?

darry wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:30:

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:19:

So I went ahead and was able to disable Ultra DMA mode, and it worked! Apparently, the JM20330 chipset has issues with the Ultra DMA speeds, so I think suffice to say that these cheaper adapters you see pop up everywhere come at a cost! Thanks so much for the help.

UDMA can work fine with JM20330 chips . I have had success with ICH2 (only up to UDMA66 and only with the ESDI_506.PDR driver patched for LBA48, it was hopelessly broken with IAA for me) and a Promise Ultra133 TX2, both under Windows 98 SE .

What IDE controller are you using with your JM20330 adapter ? Can you post a link to a photo of your specific adapter ?

So I apologize for the delay; however, I was trying to install XP on it so I could find more information on the adapter. Unofrtunately, the windows installer would not allow me to partition the space on the mSATA attached to the adapter. Interestingly, I could partition the drive using windows installer on a different pc without the adapter. Additionally, I took another msata with an existing XP install, and I installed in into the adapter, but it was unable to detect an operating system. So now I am back to square one on this adapter. In lieu of not having any other information, I will post the link to where I got the adapter from. Thanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-to-2-5-PATA-ID … 872.m2749.l2649

Perhaps you have a fake JM20330? I'm using a different mSATA to 2.5 IDE board: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193463459831 you might want to get one.

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-10, 04:55:

darry wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:30:

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:19:

So I went ahead and was able to disable Ultra DMA mode, and it worked! Apparently, the JM20330 chipset has issues with the Ultra DMA speeds, so I think suffice to say that these cheaper adapters you see pop up everywhere come at a cost! Thanks so much for the help.

UDMA can work fine with JM20330 chips . I have had success with ICH2 (only up to UDMA66 and only with the ESDI_506.PDR driver patched for LBA48, it was hopelessly broken with IAA for me) and a Promise Ultra133 TX2, both under Windows 98 SE .

What IDE controller are you using with your JM20330 adapter ? Can you post a link to a photo of your specific adapter ?

So I apologize for the delay; however, I was trying to install XP on it so I could find more information on the adapter. Unofrtunately, the windows installer would not allow me to partition the space on the mSATA attached to the adapter. Interestingly, I could partition the drive using windows installer on a different pc without the adapter. Additionally, I took another msata with an existing XP install, and I installed in into the adapter, but it was unable to detect an operating system. So now I am back to square one on this adapter. In lieu of not having any other information, I will post the link to where I got the adapter from. Thanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-to-2-5-PATA-ID … 872.m2749.l2649

Please also disclose what IDE controller or motherboard (if using an integrated one) you are using . This could be a simple incompatibility between the JM20330 and the controller you are using .

darry wrote on 2020-10-11, 03:29:

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-10, 04:55:

darry wrote on 2020-10-09, 02:30:

UDMA can work fine with JM20330 chips . I have had success with ICH2 (only up to UDMA66 and only with the ESDI_506.PDR driver patched for LBA48, it was hopelessly broken with IAA for me) and a Promise Ultra133 TX2, both under Windows 98 SE .

What IDE controller are you using with your JM20330 adapter ? Can you post a link to a photo of your specific adapter ?

So I apologize for the delay; however, I was trying to install XP on it so I could find more information on the adapter. Unofrtunately, the windows installer would not allow me to partition the space on the mSATA attached to the adapter. Interestingly, I could partition the drive using windows installer on a different pc without the adapter. Additionally, I took another msata with an existing XP install, and I installed in into the adapter, but it was unable to detect an operating system. So now I am back to square one on this adapter. In lieu of not having any other information, I will post the link to where I got the adapter from. Thanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-to-2-5-PATA-ID … 872.m2749.l2649

Please also disclose what IDE controller or motherboard (if using an integrated one) you are using . This could be a simple incompatibility between the JM20330 and the controller you are using .

Unfortunately, I do not have a drive for my Fujitsu Stylistic to boot to find out the IDE controller; however, I can get the IDE controller info for my IBM T42, which is also having problems running the adapter. The IDE controller is Intel 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA.

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-07, 19:49:

Question before I dive into what you asked for nvm1, what kind of adapters are you using? Are they the cheap ones that come in plastic? Because I have been reading more that those , which are the ones I have, have compatibility issues due to their chipset, which is the JM20330. I have been doing more research and found that the Marvell chipset is much more compatible from the reviews I have seen.

I will dig one out I am using. They indeed come with a plastic enclosure, but since I was a bit busy with work I didn't have time before to follow this thread.
The last laptop to got one was an IBM X30 which I will open to check the controller.

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-11, 06:31:

darry wrote on 2020-10-11, 03:29:

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-10, 04:55:

So I apologize for the delay; however, I was trying to install XP on it so I could find more information on the adapter. Unofrtunately, the windows installer would not allow me to partition the space on the mSATA attached to the adapter. Interestingly, I could partition the drive using windows installer on a different pc without the adapter. Additionally, I took another msata with an existing XP install, and I installed in into the adapter, but it was unable to detect an operating system. So now I am back to square one on this adapter. In lieu of not having any other information, I will post the link to where I got the adapter from. Thanks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-to-2-5-PATA-ID … 872.m2749.l2649

Please also disclose what IDE controller or motherboard (if using an integrated one) you are using . This could be a simple incompatibility between the JM20330 and the controller you are using .

Unfortunately, I do not have a drive for my Fujitsu Stylistic to boot to find out the IDE controller; however, I can get the IDE controller info for my IBM T42, which is also having problems running the adapter. The IDE controller is Intel 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA.

Thank you.
I unfortunately do not have any machines with an ICH4 (82801DBM) to test my adapters with .

Do you have an exact model for that Fujitsu Stylistic ?

Maybe if we can get an informal survey of who actually got a given JM20330 adapter working (or not), on what IDE controller, we could start getting a feel for distinguishing fundamental incompatibilities from those due to specific adapter implementation .

darry wrote on 2020-10-11, 13:34:

Thank you. I unfortunately do not have any machines with an ICH4 (82801DBM) to test my adapters with . […]
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Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-11, 06:31:

darry wrote on 2020-10-11, 03:29:

Please also disclose what IDE controller or motherboard (if using an integrated one) you are using . This could be a simple incompatibility between the JM20330 and the controller you are using .

Unfortunately, I do not have a drive for my Fujitsu Stylistic to boot to find out the IDE controller; however, I can get the IDE controller info for my IBM T42, which is also having problems running the adapter. The IDE controller is Intel 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA.

Thank you.
I unfortunately do not have any machines with an ICH4 (82801DBM) to test my adapters with .

Do you have an exact model for that Fujitsu Stylistic ?

Maybe if we can get an informal survey of who actually got a given JM20330 adapter working (or not), on what IDE controller, we could start getting a feel for distinguishing fundamental incompatibilities from those due to specific adapter implementation .

Yeah, the Fujitsu Stylistic ST 5021 is the laptop in question. I will continue looking on my end to see if i can figure out the IDE controller.

Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-12, 01:21:

darry wrote on 2020-10-11, 13:34:

Thank you. I unfortunately do not have any machines with an ICH4 (82801DBM) to test my adapters with . […]
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Brute389 wrote on 2020-10-11, 06:31:

Unfortunately, I do not have a drive for my Fujitsu Stylistic to boot to find out the IDE controller; however, I can get the IDE controller info for my IBM T42, which is also having problems running the adapter. The IDE controller is Intel 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA.

Thank you.
I unfortunately do not have any machines with an ICH4 (82801DBM) to test my adapters with .

Do you have an exact model for that Fujitsu Stylistic ?

Maybe if we can get an informal survey of who actually got a given JM20330 adapter working (or not), on what IDE controller, we could start getting a feel for distinguishing fundamental incompatibilities from those due to specific adapter implementation .

Yeah, the Fujitsu Stylistic ST 5021 is the laptop in question. I will continue looking on my end to see if i can figure out the IDE controller.

According to page 39 of this https://www.manualsearcher.com/fujitsu/stylis … 021/manual?p=49 , the chipset is an Intel 855GME .

According to https://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/design- … esign-guide.pdf , the 855GME is used with an ICH4-M (mobile ICH4) .

So you have issue with 2 different machines with ICH4 variants .

Some people have definitely had issues with JM20330 base converters, including with ICH4 . See https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=112081&start=270

A Marvell based option that still seems to be available (hopefully still uses a Marvell chip) is the Lycom ST-173-7 . It is available in the UK from here https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1111111111111 … 5-ide-ssd-drive .

This is NOT an endorsement . I have never tried this adapter or this store . Please be diligent .

EDIT: I was tempted to buy one, but they do not deliver outside of Europe . Anyway, I would have needed an mSATA to SATA adapter like this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000517103858.html as I do not have any mSATA drives .