There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)

But my experience with the MVP3 chipset (ETEK) is quite poor due to drivers and compatibility issues. AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Soyo SY-5EMA+ in perfect working order, worth it?

Good Luck

The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, K6, K6-2, etc.
Should work fine for late DOS games...

rmay635703 wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:05:

There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)
AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Right ! should use a good PCI video card instead.

rmay635703 wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:05:

There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list) […]
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There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)

But my experience with the MVP3 chipset (ETEK) is quite poor due to drivers and compatibility issues. AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Soyo SY-5EMA+ in perfect working order, worth it?

Good Luck

I would still want to know details of what those advantages are. The thread you linked is more about if it is worth paying that kind of money for the motherboard upgrade and does not help in my case. I don't even remember where I got the soyo motherboard so it was probably in some pc that I got for free or almost free that I took apart. What kind of driver and compatibility issues there are exactly with the motherboard?
What about the hard drive sizes. How large ide drive I would be able to use with the soyo motherboard compared to intel AT motherboard?

Horun wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:08:

The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, […]
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The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, K6, K6-2, etc.
Should work fine for late DOS games...

rmay635703 wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:05:

There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)
AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Right ! should use a good PCI video card instead.

Thanks. I only have 90Mhz, 100Mhz and 120Mhz pentium chips, so I assume 100Mhz one is the best for it in general. Do you happen to know anything about what would be the max hard drive size on the soyo motherboard?

Try running 120 at 133Mhz on 66 fsb. Should work.

Cheers,

While testing the soyo motherboard I came across a strange issue. Why a keytronic keyboard from 2001 would not work with this motherboard? The keyboard isn't recognized at all while standard IBM model M keyboard works fine with the motherboard. Never had this kind of problem come up before.

Horun wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:08:

The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, […]
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The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, K6, K6-2, etc.
Should work fine for late DOS games...

rmay635703 wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:05:

There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)
AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Right ! should use a good PCI video card instead.

The 60Mhz FSB setting may not be listed, but has a good chance of existing. You just need to look at the datasheet for the clockgen that is on the motherboard to see if it supports anything lower than 66Mhz fsb.

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-10-25, 06:20:

Horun wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:08:

The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, […]
Show full quote

The Soyo is a SS7 so there would be no 60Mhz support, just like the FIC VA-503+ and other PCI/AGP SS7. Mainly designed for MMX, K6, K6-2, etc.
Should work fine for late DOS games...

rmay635703 wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:05:

There are many advantages of socket 7 or super 7 over Socket 5 (too many to list)
AGP port on socket 7 has plenty of compatibility issues as well. YMMV

Right ! should use a good PCI video card instead.

The 60Mhz FSB setting may not be listed, but has a good chance of existing. You just need to look at the datasheet for the clockgen that is on the motherboard to see if it supports anything lower than 66Mhz fsb.

How do I recognize the clockgen on the motherboard?
there are 3 switches on the motherboard that control the fsb.
off-off-off 66Mhz
off-off-on 100Mhz
off-on-off 75Mhz
on-on-off 85Mhz
on-off-on 95Mhz

These are on the manual, so that would leave on-on-on, off-on-on and on-off-off combinations to be the only ones not mentioned there

Edit: Looking at manual of later revision of the motherboard it seems that off-on-on is 112Mhz and on-off-off is 124Mhz and that would leave on-on-on the only possible combination.

Edit: Found the last combination. on-on-on seems to be 68Mhz. It is written on a table on the motherboard.

On the sy-5ema+ I am pretty sure it is the ic nestled between the RAM slots, AGP slot and the Northbridge chip.

on-on-on might be 68.5... depends on if the different revisions use the same exact clockgen.

Is it the one that has been covered by a sticker?

Yes, almost 100% sure that is it.

Baoran wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:23:

I would still want to know details of what those advantages are.

I think the main advantages of S7 over S5 are better and more stable chipsets (some with PCI dividers for 83MHz fsb), potentially more features and a much larger CPU selection.

Doornkaat wrote on 2020-10-25, 07:11:

Baoran wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:23:

I would still want to know details of what those advantages are.

I think the main advantages of S7 over S5 are better and more stable chipsets (some with PCI dividers for 83MHz fsb), potentially more features and a much larger CPU selection.

I always thought intel triton chipsets were considered to be very stable. Was I mistaken?

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-10-25, 07:04:

Yes, almost 100% sure that is it.

This is what I found under the sticker. Unfortunately google didn't find anything when I put those numbers and letters there.

Here you go:

https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/data … 5/W127H-pdf.php

gbeirn wrote on 2020-10-25, 08:15:

Here you go:

https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/data … 5/W127H-pdf.php

Thank you very much. Unfortunately there is no 60Mhz there. Quite limited amount of frequency selections there.

Just to clarify, if it has an AGP slot then it’s a “super socket 7” motherboard, not “socket 7”. I think there is a small misunderstanding here between these two terms.

Baoran wrote on 2020-10-25, 07:27:

Doornkaat wrote on 2020-10-25, 07:11:

Baoran wrote on 2020-10-25, 01:23:

I would still want to know details of what those advantages are.

I think the main advantages of S7 over S5 are better and more stable chipsets (some with PCI dividers for 83MHz fsb), potentially more features and a much larger CPU selection.

I always thought intel triton chipsets were considered to be very stable. Was I mistaken?

You were not mistaken. Still the 430HX (Triton II) tops it in terms of features and speed.

devius wrote on 2020-10-25, 10:18:

Just to clarify, if it has an AGP slot then it’s a “super socket 7” motherboard, not “socket 7”. I think there is a small misunderstanding here between these two terms.

I always thought term super socket 7 was just used to differentiate it when a socket 7 motherboard could do 100Mhz bus speed and if I was going to use it with older pentium cpu that doesn't need higher bus speeds it could be considered same as just socket 7 motherboard. The motherboards were called by the actual socket that you put the cpu in and this one has just standard socket 7 socket. The importance to differentiate would come if I were to build a system that needs the 100Mhz fsb to tell others that I have a motherboard that supports those cpus. Same as if someone had called socket 370 motherboards that support tualatin cpus "super socket 370 motherboards."