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First post, by Dave Bursik

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Hello,

I have theese 30pin SIMM modules ( each od them is 512kB - I hope ).
I tried to use them in 386 or 486 motherboards, but BIOS cannot read them. It is strange, because there is no problem with all my 1MB modules.
Any idea how or where to test them ?

Thanks,
David

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Last edited by Dave Bursik on 2020-11-19, 16:25. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 1 of 13, by debs3759

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Are they double sided? That poses a problem for some motherboards.

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Reply 3 of 13, by Horun

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Most older 286 and 386 motherboards that have 30pin simm sockets will only work with 256k, 1Mb or 4Mb simms.
Good examples is the ASUS ISA-386C or FIC LEO 386's.
I have some 2Mb 30 pin that only work in a specific AST motherboard (and an older Apple Mac)
What motherboard are you trying to test them in ?

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Reply 5 of 13, by Grzyb

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They are 256 KB + parity.
Are you sure the bank is filled up?
Memory bank = 2 x SIMM30 for 386SX, 4 x SIMM30 for 386DX/486.

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Reply 7 of 13, by Dave Bursik

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Grzyb wrote on 2020-11-19, 17:12:

They are 256 KB + parity.
Are you sure the bank is filled up?
Memory bank = 2 x SIMM30 for 386SX, 4 x SIMM30 for 386DX/486.

Each module has two 256kB chip and third one for a parity. So I assume the capacity of each module is 512kB.

David

Reply 8 of 13, by maxtherabbit

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Dave Bursik wrote on 2020-11-20, 16:21:
Grzyb wrote on 2020-11-19, 17:12:

They are 256 KB + parity.
Are you sure the bank is filled up?
Memory bank = 2 x SIMM30 for 386SX, 4 x SIMM30 for 386DX/486.

Each module has two 256kB chip and third one for a parity. So I assume the capacity of each module is 512kB.

David

Each "256kb" chip is 256k x 4 bits. It takes two of them to make 256 kiloBYTES

Reply 9 of 13, by Dave Bursik

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2020-11-20, 16:23:
Dave Bursik wrote on 2020-11-20, 16:21:
Grzyb wrote on 2020-11-19, 17:12:

They are 256 KB + parity.
Are you sure the bank is filled up?
Memory bank = 2 x SIMM30 for 386SX, 4 x SIMM30 for 386DX/486.

Each module has two 256kB chip and third one for a parity. So I assume the capacity of each module is 512kB.

David

Each "256kb" chip is 256k x 4 bits. It takes two of them to make 256 kiloBYTES

Are all of them 256k x 4bit? I think just two modules are 256k x 4bit..

Reply 11 of 13, by zyga64

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Third IC (for parity) is 1-bit wide, which results with 9-bit SIMM.

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Reply 12 of 13, by Caluser2000

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The Dos memory testers such as the ones in Norton Utilities , checkit , Central Point PC tools and many others should be able to test them just fine if the motherboard supports them.

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Reply 13 of 13, by Dave Bursik

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Hello,

thanks. I checked DRAM configuration for the M321 motherboard.

DRAM CONFIGURATION
Size Bank 0 Bank 1
1MB (4) 256K x 9 NONE
2MB (4) 256K x 9 (4) 256K x 9
4MB (4) 1M x 9 NONE
5MB (4) 256K x 9 (4) 1 M x 9
8MB (4) 1M x 9 (4) 1M x 9
16MB (4) 4M x 9 NONE
20MB (4) 4M x 9 (4) 1M x 9
32MB (4) 4M x 9 (4) 4M x 9

So I think my modules should work with motherboard ... ???
Each module is 256k x 4-bit +256k x 4-bit + 1-bit wide parity chip

David