Standoffs in that case may be a little bit too short, but that doesn't look like a serious problem anyway. AGP slot could be more sensitive, as it has two rows of connectors, but I don't see one here.

Is the slot bracket fully pushed down? If it is, you might just need slightly longer stand offs (there seem to be two standards for the length in older cases)

debs3759 wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:32:

Is the slot bracket fully pushed down? If it is, you might just need slightly longer stand offs (there seem to be two standards for the length in older cases)

Fully pushed down yes. I'm not sure what size standoffs I have as I just got them off Amazon.

I've had that issue too. Sometimes the PCI bracket is too long, in which case I trim the end of it that rest on the back of the case/motherboard tray, and sometimes the PCI bracket is simple too short and I have remove it.

I don't think longer standoffs are the answer. Then longer ones are most likely going to be too long.

Cases back then we're usually just not made to specs that they should have been. If you have any of those red washers, try putting one or two on top of the standoffs near the back of the case. That should raise it up just enough to seat the cards fully.

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:40:

I don't think longer standoffs are the answer. Then longer ones are most likely going to be too long.

Cases back then we're usually just not made to specs that they should have been. If you have any of those red washers, try putting one or two on top of the standoffs near the back of the case. That should raise it up just enough to seat the cards fully.

Any red washer in specific?

I'm not to bothered. Aslong as the slight raise won't hurt the cards or induce any video/audio issues.

debs3759 wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:32:

Is the slot bracket fully pushed down? If it is, you might just need slightly longer stand offs (there seem to be two standards for the length in older cases)

Can you tell me what the two standards are (iam trying to learn)

SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-12-02, 01:02:

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:40:

I don't think longer standoffs are the answer. Then longer ones are most likely going to be too long.

Cases back then we're usually just not made to specs that they should have been. If you have any of those red washers, try putting one or two on top of the standoffs near the back of the case. That should raise it up just enough to seat the cards fully.

Any red washer in specific?

I'm not to bothered. Aslong as the slight raise won't hurt the cards or induce any video/audio issues.

Back in the day, cases would come with a bunch of red fiber washers that were meant to be used on the screws that were used to mount the motherboard in order to keep them from marring the motherboard.

Just do a search on eBay for motherboard washers. I just ordered 1,000 nylon washers for less than $10.

I see you can get 5,000 and 10,000 packs of the red fiber ones.. you can get much smaller quantities but the 5,000 and 10,000 qty packs are a way better deal.

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:40:

I don't think longer standoffs are the answer. Then longer ones are most likely going to be too long.

Cases back then we're usually just not made to specs that they should have been. If you have any of those red washers, try putting one or two on top of the standoffs near the back of the case. That should raise it up just enough to seat the cards fully.

For screw-in standoffs fit the washers between the case and the bottom of the standoff. You'll only be able to insert washers on the top for standoffs which are easily accessible from the edge of the motherboard.

(sorry if this sounds obvious, but one man's obvious is sometimes another man's stroke of genius)

Robin4 wrote on 2020-12-02, 01:39:

debs3759 wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:32:

Is the slot bracket fully pushed down? If it is, you might just need slightly longer stand offs (there seem to be two standards for the length in older cases)

Can you tell me what the two standards are (iam trying to learn)

The stand offs I have are 6mm and 7mm approx

mdog69 wrote on 2020-12-02, 07:56:

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-12-01, 23:40:

I don't think longer standoffs are the answer. Then longer ones are most likely going to be too long.

Cases back then we're usually just not made to specs that they should have been. If you have any of those red washers, try putting one or two on top of the standoffs near the back of the case. That should raise it up just enough to seat the cards fully.

For screw-in standoffs fit the washers between the case and the bottom of the standoff. You'll only be able to insert washers on the top for standoffs which are easily accessible from the edge of the motherboard.

(sorry if this sounds obvious, but one man's obvious is sometimes another man's stroke of genius)

Not the f you are careful. I have set washers on top.of the standoffs and then very carefully set the motherboard on top of the standoffs. Usually have to use something to recenter a few of the washers but it does work.

Another option is to tape the washers in place... Double sided tape works best.

On the other hand, if there are some standoffs that are only 1mm longer, those would probably work as well.

The washer trick is a good idea. Some of systems have a cards of different lengths, so I guess you could add washers to the expansion bracket through hole for them. That is a much better solution than modifying the brackets themselves.

mothergoose729 wrote on 2020-12-02, 19:49:

The washer trick is a good idea. Some of systems have a cards of different lengths, so I guess you could add washers to the expansion bracket through hole for them. That is a much better solution than modifying the brackets themselves.

Definitely. I even have a nice, fancy capture card that I bought for my main PC. It came with a low profile bracket and I fitted it with a close-ish full height bracket. But because it wasn't the stock one, there was a motherboard standoff length of space in between the top of the bracket and the case. So I screwed in a standoff to the normal screw hole and then fastened the card bracket to that. Works perfectly.

If you don't have washers, you can always cut little squares of electrical tape and put that on top of the standoffs where needed. Just add enough layers to build it up to the correct height. 1-2 layers is usually enough.