You can install Windows 98 SE on second motherboard too. Even with LAN support, due to inclusion of Marvell Yukon 88E8056.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2021-01-21, 09:53:

You can install Windows 98 SE on second motherboard too.

But I didn`t find official win98 drivers for this chipset and not sure about that PCIe GPUs has win98 drivers also.

But I didn`t find official win98 drivers for this chipset

ICH7-10 (south bridges) are unofficially supported. Thanks to Win9x community.

not sure about that PCIe GPUs has win98 drivers also.

GeForce PCX 5700/5900, GeForce 6200-6800, Radeon X800. Also PCI video cards.

I think the main question is whether you want to upgrade to multicore CPUs or not. It's just me, but if and when I want to build a P4 PC, I only consider the socke478 platform. If I want to build an XP PC, I strongly lean towards the socket775. AMD is an interesting option and they were more than competitive until the Core2 released, but it's harder to build a period correct XP PC with overkill performance and low power consumption.

For 478, there is also this option:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130831231248/ht … 4-m-exploration

Dunno if that works with this particular board though...anyone tried that?

For 478, there is also this option:

Which is useless. They work only with minimal multiplier and nothing stop you to undervolt desktop CPU, if provided motherboard is capable.

RandomStranger wrote on 2021-01-21, 13:49:

I think the main question is whether you want to upgrade to multicore CPUs or not. It's just me, but if and when I want to build a P4 PC, I only consider the socke478 platform. If I want to build an XP PC, I strongly lean towards the socket775. AMD is an interesting option and they were more than competitive until the Core2 released, but it's harder to build a period correct XP PC with overkill performance and low power consumption.

Agree. LGA775 can become a nice XP overkill rig. But 478 is interesting retro-platform, but a dead-end. That`s the question I can`t decide))

Nick4 wrote on 2021-01-21, 15:47:

But 478 is interesting retro-platform, but a dead-end.

You’re talking about Pentium 4, so won’t it always be a dead-end?

If you are looking at FX cards then IMO you don't need faster than northwood to play games made at or around 2002 or 2003. I haven't heard of anyone having much success with PCIE video cards in windows 98. I wouldn't install windows 98 on a machine that doesn't have AGP.

From my own experience, the 865 intel chipset with the ICH 5 southbridge works really well in windows 98.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2021-01-21, 15:39:

For 478, there is also this option:

Which is useless. They work only with minimal multiplier and nothing stop you to undervolt desktop CPU, if provided motherboard is capable.

Yeah pretty much...it's more like a curiosity HTPC variation. Also the mobo mentioned in the comments section isn't exactly the same model the OP mentioned (one letter difference P4i65G vs. P4i65GV - V is for hyperthreading?)
Besides in the wintertime, we need all the heat the P4s can produce 😁

I have a Radeon x800 XL (PCIe) working quite well with Windows 98 (both FE and SE). I even played through Call of Duty in 1080p without crashing it. Much more stable than my GeForce 6800 GS with NVidia's rather buggy drivers.

IMO, if you're set on a P4, go with whatever you want or feel comfortable with. There's not that much difference between the best 478 and 775 CPUs (differences for sure, but really not huge ones with mid-XP-era apps). You will have many more CPU options with 775, though.

It'll depend on what PC's you already have. From my own collection

I do all my 9x gaming from my P3 600, anything this struggles with is modern enough to run in XP.
My s478 9x/XP PC never gets used.
My s775 XP build is fine for all my XP gaming, by the time this struggles I can play on my modern rig.

So if you already have a Strong 98 build I'd go for the s775 or if you have a strong XP build I'd go for s478
Yes you can make a unofficial S775 Win98 build that'll limit your graphics card choices creating a bottleneck for later XP games, and I agree s478 and more so that AGP slot gives it a more retro feel.

chinny22 wrote on 2021-01-22, 11:13:

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It'll depend on what PC's you already have. From my own collection

I do all my 9x gaming from my P3 600, anything this struggles with is modern enough to run in XP.
My s478 9x/XP PC never gets used.
My s775 XP build is fine for all my XP gaming, by the time this struggles I can play on my modern rig.

So if you already have a Strong 98 build I'd go for the s775 or if you have a strong XP build I'd go for s478
Yes you can make a unofficial S775 Win98 build that'll limit your graphics card choices creating a bottleneck for later XP games, and I agree s478 and more so that AGP slot gives it a more retro feel.

I already have a P1 98 build, so early win98 games are covered.
So I think lga775 wil be better option for me, I think I`ll go with it.