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First post, by dudulinek

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Hello there cant solve some problems. PC work fine, everything look fine ... happy i can play Tomb Raider 1 with 3DFX patch ... but have some questions

Machine
CPU Katmai Pentium 3 450MHz, slot 1
MB Fujitsu Siemens chipset i440BX/ZX
GPU Voodoo 3 2000 AGP
SOUND Sound Blaster Vibra 16 CT4170
RAM 256MB 133MHz

1 - My sound card is ISA Sound Blaster Vibra 16 CT4170 and i cant enable digital play for audio CD. Iam using default windows drivers 5.5.1999. DOS and Windows games work fine with sound and for example dos games dont have any problems autodetect sound blaster (Tomb Raider 1, Warcraft 2, KKND). Problem is when i use game image in daemon tools, audio tracks not playing.
- YES default CD drive letter on picture is OK ... D: is virtual CD. Hardware CDROM changed to E (default was D)
- YES audio CD play option in daemon tools is ENABLED and it working. When i open windows CD player, mounted image TR2 work
- YES tried reinstall Tomb Raider 2 from mounted image. Default installation was from CD and with hardware CDdrive music playing well

Question is ... how can i enable digital play and is possible enable this on CT4170?

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2 - DXDIAG versus Voodoo 3 2000 AGP: AGP option is greyed out. Is this normal? I cant remember i think it is normal. Voodoo 3 not using agp acceleration. Right?
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Reply 1 of 5, by dudulinek

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update:

Added to machine second soundcard SB Live sb0060. So now i have two sound cards. SB 16 for dos games and SB Live WDM drivers (WDM not working under dos so dos games detecting SB16). Now i can enable digital audio in windows and windows games with audio tracks work fine from virtual drive. TR2, Croc ... DOS games with audio tracks still need use CD in real drive. Is crazy combination but better than nothing. I dont know better solution 🙁

Reply 2 of 5, by chinny22

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I'd say this is actually the perfect combination.
SBLive is much better card all round really.
Only thing the SB16 has going for it is that dos games really want a ISA card so would only use it for dos.
I'm not sure if you can enable digital over the SB16, I've never tried, as long as you have the audio cable running from the CD drive to the SB16 I'd call it a day and be happy.
If you boot into pure dos you'll be relying on that audio cable no matter what anyway.

Reply 3 of 5, by DrLucienSanchez

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I had the exact same issue with Mortal Kombat 3 and Quake 2, no music playback, using full image via Daemon Tools 3.47, tried many solutions, none worked, so in the end had to just burn the image to CD-R, no further issues.

Btw, I love your build!

Classic rig - MS6156 Ver 1.0 Bx7 Slot1 Motherboard - Pentium II Deschutes 400Mhz, 320MB PC100 RAM, 20GB SATA Toshiba 2.5 via IDE/SATA converter, Intel i740 8Mb AGP, Sun Microsystems 16" CRT Monitor - PN17J0 CRT monitor

Reply 4 of 5, by dudulinek

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chinny22 wrote on 2021-02-18, 10:41:
I'd say this is actually the perfect combination. SBLive is much better card all round really. Only thing the SB16 has going for […]
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I'd say this is actually the perfect combination.
SBLive is much better card all round really.
Only thing the SB16 has going for it is that dos games really want a ISA card so would only use it for dos.
I'm not sure if you can enable digital over the SB16, I've never tried, as long as you have the audio cable running from the CD drive to the SB16 I'd call it a day and be happy.
If you boot into pure dos you'll be relying on that audio cable no matter what anyway.

Cant enable digital play CD on SB16 ... i think there is VXD driver. Dont know where to get CT4170 WDM drivers ... at general ... dont know where to get any drivers for CT4170. Like i said using standard SB16 W98 drivers from microsoft. I think when i install WDM i will lose DOS support ... i will keep like this i think. SB16 for dos + real CD drive and Live for windows games + virtual image audio.
I want virtual CD drive because very loud BTC 32x drive. Imagine u playing game and someone start near you Harley Davidson 😁 So i will look for another drive. I can use new sata drive with adapter sata+pata but there is another problem. No connector for analog audio 🙁

ok now i have this:
OLD DOS GAMES: DOS 6.22, Pentium 233MMX, PC Chips M537 DMA, S3 Virge DX 4MB, 64MB RAM, Sound Blaster Live SB0220 (General MIDI + MT-32 emulation work perfect)

https://youtu.be/tx41WnYUzWY
https://youtu.be/KYBEioMifP8

LATE DOS GAMES and 3DFX: Windows 98SE, Pentium 3 450, BX440, Voodoo 3 2000, 256MB, SB 16 + Live 0060
WIN98 BEAST: Pentium 4 2.4Ghz, MicroStar 865PE Neo2-LS, 1GB RAM, Geforce FX 5500 256MB and Live SB0220

https://youtu.be/BJtw9Ah0yoQ

ROCKET XP PC: Core2 Quad Q9550, Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, 4GB RAM and GTX760 2GB

https://youtu.be/aVEsqEfcY7w